From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4F3138247 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFA7BE0B36; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F306E0B2E for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.43.102] (mobile-166-137-187-015.mycingular.net [166.137.187.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD2C533F077 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 04:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52AF80E9.5030904@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:38:33 -0500 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up References: <20131203211130.GA31972@linux1> <52A2B788.3040409@gentoo.org> <20131208222552.GA22567@linux1> <52A5D89A.4080506@gentoo.org> <52A62062.9030109@gentoo.org> <20131211025755.GA23458@linux1> <20131214201347.GA27029@linux1> <20131214215704.GA27569@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20131214215704.GA27569@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ce27d702-8555-4438-89db-cf46569b4101 X-Archives-Hash: 00847bf45032ca6263338741e481122e -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/14/2013 04:57 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 08:47:01PM +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> OK, I see what you mean. >> To be clear, I'm not ready to have a stage3 without netifrc. If / when we >> update catalyst so that the new stage3 is the sum of @system and >> additional packages, we can move netifrc to that list. > > Actually I'm not even sure how necessary that kind of update is. > > I didn't quite follow what the reasoning against my second proposal was. > > Once openrc-0.12.4 is stable everywhere it is going to go stable, I want > to add virtual/network-manager to the tree. This would contain a list of > network manager providers. > > I think adding it to the tree is good, because we have other virtuals > for multiple packages that perform the same function -- virtual/logger, > virtual/mta, etc. > Excellent idea. since busybox is in the stage3 and it provides udhcpc we don't really need dhcpcd or netifrc or even really iproute2. I have no problem distributing stage2's if everyone wants a crippled place to start from, but this talk of removing base net scripts makes no sense to me. It interferes with nothing. It blocks nothing. It takes almost no space at all. There is zero downside to keeping it. Until such time as someone tells me an actual downside to having netifrc in the stage3 I will be reverting any change which removes it as critical breakage. You will know when this statement no longer holds when I specifically state that on this mailing list that I agree, netifrc is a problem and needs to be removed. Until then, please, the bike shed is green. - -Zero > Once that is done, we could easily add it to @system then I would drop > the netifrc use flag. That would take care of the situation if netifrc > was the default provider. > > Then, if you decide to add the function you are talking about to > catalyst, we could look into dropping virtual/network-manager from > @system. > > I'll attach the ebuild below so everyone sees it. > > William > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSr4DpAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKXQgQAJvKeM+avFF381dem8FBpxBC FVRc7StBNwcaK3k0J3on32HXVAxLGAD+digxD/j1WYS3CUr5xkcM6JOKXAPXOnTr c6AKrWZpe7UjyqWNY94KVWV+IFXsOUwsaLND+llPVIi5Z+zy0/Cj5qOCQcy28QO2 csdPWykqeyaoD5pPLTXI8wSIm3AyMLryTYkBAiAR1k8CIbSodRK6Rfsb9f7jijTR 8Bm8/zpVZN+wBymzHExDENdNFuVZAr3b8Jz5jVqom+TbiWk2VpeDO2Oo3Pr62q+R 9briW7lE5pyn3GOj3YuRFCb8mUq/r961jCybXbTpm2UE2auh2jSW7yHvnV+yfEcl tlles7SF+xsb4FysKwNI08nTSGHpVR3j5LVBk21VvNtFtpoaczLhJYqXt29TmfQE WtUAe6M1c4BlOnJc1J1vsQiEJ/fWrByTXJavW7hxnb513gy2CC2wWY2d/3ROs7g1 iSZQC93W09WPpKu1TbBGd+sh3NdZHZYE9F5HLOKTrpOPOC38PDjJoqiM2h26lwqh YhA2jpxKvvpyrBgZPigIrlLHDv3n/nx44SRLc37SR2Y/sjVWU3EoI0JQ0LNsXVLP 7RwWyOPdkTsX38JP9JU6nQCQlHkY3NGcaJ3CXxEnCmnzn2XqXhKFd8Rg1Cj2U1ID AIJJuqOGJZxuwfoCbUhu =/wy0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----