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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:06:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A7826B.6090905@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131208212159.0a49761f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO>

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On 08/12/13 03:21 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:01:00 +0100 Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure it does - it defaults to :* when :* was never specified.
>>> I don't see how defaulting to :0= is a "policy" any more than
>>> :* is.
>> 
>> Defaulting to :* is just the long term behaviour from EAPIs 0 to
>> 4 when no slot operator was specified.
> 
> Which section in the PMS is this specified?
> 
>> This is consistent with what we haved for versioned
>> dependencies. When you don't specify a version, then all versions
>> are good.
> 
> Good idea.
> 
>> Similarly, when you don't specify a slot, then all slots are
>> good.
> 
> Not so good idea; because if all slot would be good by default,
> then why have slots in the first place? Are we using SLOT right at
> all?
> 

SLOT allows multiple versions of a package to be installed
concurrently.  In the case of libraries or dependencies, this supports
the specific case where certain ebuilds only support a particular
SLOT.  However, that doesn't mean that all packages need to be tied to
one slot or another.

It should be noted here that this discussion is revolving entirely
around multi-SLOT libraries.  Firstly, there are packages like
dev-db/postgresql that use SLOTs not just for library provision.
Secondly, SLOT= on the libraries being discussed may not actually be
the correct method to deal with this at all, and rather, these libs
should be using a subslot and the rdeps be using an upper-bound
version on dependency atoms to limit which dependency it can be used
with--it all depends on whether the library maintainer intends to
support both major versions in the long term or not.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-10 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08 16:56 [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead? Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 17:16 ` Michał Górny
2013-12-08 17:19 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-12-08 17:26   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-12-08 17:46     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 18:56       ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08 19:14   ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-12-08 19:39     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08 19:48       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-12-08 20:01       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-12-08 20:17         ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09  2:37           ` heroxbd
2013-12-09  2:55             ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09  3:19               ` heroxbd
2013-12-08 20:21         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 20:25           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-12-10 21:06           ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2013-12-10 23:35             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 20:04     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 20:21       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-12-08 20:26         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-12-08 20:31           ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-12-08 21:54           ` Michał Górny
2013-12-08 22:02             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-12-08 20:28         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 20:30         ` Tom Wijsman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-08 16:54 Tom Wijsman
2013-12-08 23:57 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-09  0:12   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-09  0:21   ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09  6:52 ` Sergey Popov
2013-12-09 10:55   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-12-09 16:06     ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 16:19       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-12-10  0:31         ` Tom Wijsman

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