From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4694A138247 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5203AE0A9D; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C339E0A93 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (pool-72-95-221-222.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [72.95.221.222]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17E8B33F4B8 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 05:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52A2B788.3040409@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 00:52:08 -0500 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up References: <20131201102015.GA1219@egeo> <20131202202845.GA8574@linux1> <529CF973.2020008@gentoo.org> <529CFAA1.7080608@gentoo.org> <20131203211130.GA31972@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20131203211130.GA31972@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 708eabe6-b150-4c2b-86c6-6daa6f5f0ffb X-Archives-Hash: 683edb404260eb6d74300a0ef9e2c8b8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/03/2013 04:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which > has the following rdepend settings: > > RDEPEND=" || ( > net-misc/netifrc > >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet] > net-misc/badvpn > net-misc/dhcpcd > net-misc/netctl > net-misc/NetworkManager > net-misc/wicd )" > > Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way? > > William > I see two issues here. Both are rather trivial to solve imho. 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything in if they really don't want it. 2.) having dhcpcd in this list will cause everything else to be cleaned out that that is baaaad. imho, dhcpcd shouldn't be on this list at all purely from a safety perspective. The stages will have dhcpcd so they wouldn't end up with netifrc afaict. Just as a side note, after reading the thread up through this point, I'm terrified of the individuals who wish to remove networking support from stage3 entirely. If anyone wants to push that idea then that needs to be addressed by the council. Period. Such a major change is going to cause a holy war, and myself and others will actively revert any change which removes net from stage3 under the guise of "critical breakage" unless there is council direction that says we are no longer including net support in the stage3s. Honestly, I'm not really sure why anyone would want to make stage3 less functional than it already is but honestly net isn't something I'm ready to give up just yet. - -Zero -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSoreIAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKKdIP/3fhppSUlXv60Ah1T1AECisC ssISEgKx5RsW608NnfpaYpmXdLgpDW5aSZDqXsIIBUP4/E4gTdP/gJqP36A4wsM3 HOwckcbsbTwtMquVngnpJ/stSCdzN/67lUelVxQwE+e90kZjihJnzRk1jhr8Ejxm 6J7G4m71T/OeE4ldZ/HeCliFpT5gPJNA1JVTcZoXkNIrggbvHFI8aQnLEDF6lX2E 1WjiW3Vq4Quz5cLNi1rE8di+HMRVZQVC4M1m6TtzyQP2Zzic3pwR4cGM/F2hLTvL EhQeZQpIix8qzd0MTonCEhOGpMcWBEBvI8+8gZNp9xeZ6ibBY8fRheT+OlVCXpVF +m07KABgiMRqQQHsMOgJRNSl9hocIjDEUQaxmvvTqXIDeElEEy7MOKdST7okWtrb bI5GNBrYc0JPEroi0uE6pvI7W8g9vS1y6hBQcpIQXxgJCccVx2TTUhF65on6tzNx NTqph2WAWtrPS3oIjGfbbOk4bujSP/OaOBN2HAuimZ4PW2hbOoW0mtSNUItGWXGY o+8OnIrday7aWloT6CLByqWNLqfgTWFEJvBzVd5vuLAlkVUWCQgGx0XWgeEJHEeQ zAxX9rcn6z4ACB9v+Xs96lkxHcjNPrHcjRfaQYDlm/OxliDe3FrryfrRtxjGKbws ZQYvnajkTjK4UYEEF8zf =eY8S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----