Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

[Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>]

On 11/14/2013 01:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-11-14, o godz. 07:49:55
> Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
>> On 11/13/2013 11:02 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>>
>>> It's also worth pointing out that the whole reason why abi_x86_32 is
>>> {package.,}use.stable.masked is because trying to manage the partial
>>> transisition between emul-* and multilib-build dependencies
>>
>> ^^
>>
>> Why is there a partial random transition with no roadmap, no coordination?
> 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Multilib_porting_status
> 
> That's the closest thing to a roadmap.

So just "fix it as problems appear and/or we have some spare time" ...

> So tell me, what you exactly want or need? Or is it just bare
> complaining for the sake of complaining?

Well, you accidentally cut out all references to TommyD's work again.
Almost as if you don't even want to discuss a working proper solution
that just doesn't have the ego hammering it in ...


>> A more clean way would have been to target each of the emul-x86
>> libraries, replace one completely with multilib-enabled libraries, fix
>> all consumers, *then* unmask that whole shebang at once.
> 
> We tried that. But in the end, it ended up masking new versions
> of a whole lot of libraries waiting for remaining maintainers'
> approval. And the maintainers that opposed the idea now complained that
> it caused the packages to be masked long...
There's this thing called overlay ;)
Once you have everything prepared commit it all masked.
A few days later if there's no obvious bug reports unmask it and duck.

> Feel free to convert all libraries, fix all consumers etc. We couldn't
> achieve that with our manpower.
So you just do it half-donkey'ed. Sigh.

Maybe ... you shouldn't do it if you can't properly finish it?

I mean, not like you cause a trail of destruction like the python-exec
fun, and such things ... maybe ... maybe ... you need to slow down and
plan more, and do your experiments in overlays.

Have fun,

Patrick