From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CEB138247 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80F42E0B87; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:38:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68499E0B5F for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:22ca::2:1000] (vpn-c0.not-your-server.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:22ca::2:1000]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ercpe) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 473FE33F3DC for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <528453B0.8020105@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:38:08 +0100 From: Johann Schmitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors References: <5283CBD3.1010309@gmail.com> <5283D015.5060102@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5283D015.5060102@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 90d8b619-e270-4535-8385-3deebe67b89d X-Archives-Hash: e504d4199710e37a3d2a63fcf349f798 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot >> (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an >> old server on a client. I have done the switch to the current profile+portage on many server recently and i don't think that it is neccessary to keep an old portage snapshot around. Updating from old portage versions or profiles isn't fun but it basically boils down to - - Update python to latest 2.7/3.2 - - Run python-updater and select 2.7/3.2 as the main python version - - Drop old python version - - Update Portage, layman, eix - - Switch to the current profile - - Update the rest If you switched to the new profile with an old portage too early (happens to me *twice*), you will get at some point many blockers due to EAPI=5 and have to hack either the ebuilds or update portage manually. > The goal is to be able to update a device for a year. Not updating > at least once a year is not supportable, and should be discouraged. > I'm sorry for your pain, I really am, but I hope that it pushes you > to update twice a year instead of zero times. I think that even half a year is a very long period in Gentoo. Updating the core packages (portage, openrc, udev, etc.) on a (bi-)monthly basis makes sure that you don't run in such troubles. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJShFOwAAoJEKCEBkJ3xQHtVB8H/jTp17a1nuQP8N8wajkG90/o pc353PvxW/JgRYBKBrdmWEqW0dS1wRsdbPVnZuOkWpWw4CXbXc7fTJ6gualYUx8L 6FgwsGwWRu/WpSVIvu9gYmtc+yWSPv3YBVmdi0d0KfzUU10sAZn74+0tHUKaSglE TkunxAB6YSGRYj4VC6ZfaFK38gq5owgyzNjLa90rEPY4QFuTum16Y7Jr6RKtQGa1 LuJygufXPGxasW001dUmVTyQUH+vOxF3nWWaaj92zgGf33t67GeY6MMSnwFVXnnr AYlHykYQr0RmPGmZShAnhr8B3HL7vDdm0CXzmg23noyiT67RqRXOqDJxwTw+29o= =jQEK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----