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From: Johann Schmitz <ercpe@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:38:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528453B0.8020105@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5283D015.5060102@gentoo.org>

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>> long story short having a  portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot 
>> (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an
>> old server on a client.


I have done the switch to the current profile+portage on many server
recently and i don't think that it is neccessary to keep an old
portage snapshot around. Updating from old portage versions or
profiles isn't fun but it basically boils down to

- - Update python to latest 2.7/3.2
- - Run python-updater and select 2.7/3.2 as the main python version
- - Drop old python version
- - Update Portage, layman, eix
- - Switch to the current profile
- - Update the rest

If you switched to the new profile with an old portage too early
(happens to me *twice*), you will get at some point many blockers due
to EAPI=5 and have to hack either the ebuilds or update portage manually.

> The goal is to be able to update a device for a year.  Not updating
> at least once a year is not supportable, and should be discouraged.
> I'm sorry for your pain, I really am, but I hope that it pushes you
> to update twice a year instead of zero times.

I think that even half a year is a very long period in Gentoo.
Updating the core packages (portage, openrc, udev, etc.) on a
(bi-)monthly basis makes sure that you don't run in such troubles.
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-14  4:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 18:58 [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors Francesco R.
2013-11-13 19:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 20:49   ` Roy Bamford
2013-11-13 21:18     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 13:17       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 13:38         ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 15:24           ` Duncan
2013-11-15 15:59         ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-14  0:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-14 13:17   ` Francesco R.
2013-11-14 14:01     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 13:19   ` Lars Wendler
2013-11-14 19:49     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 19:16 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-11-14  4:38   ` Johann Schmitz [this message]
2013-11-14 13:09     ` Francesco R.

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