From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B711138247 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:23:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D287E0AEB; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D5EAE0AC1 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [91.220.220.251] (pinkbyte.micronet-rostov.ru [91.220.220.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pinkbyte) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3FCF33F1BE for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 06:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5281C92C.5090300@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:22:36 +0400 From: Sergey Popov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130923 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Package removal without proper last-riting References: <5280A447.8050707@gentoo.org> <5280A5B0.5020106@gentoo.org> <20131111104730.1e6420d4@gentoo.org> <20131111135122.4f6740ea@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <52816E5B.4050706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <52816E5B.4050706@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G0sGphihIwUgqmbheTlsfmR1mgmX298hn" X-Archives-Salt: 69f03630-0e79-4908-9816-0169c6ca7758 X-Archives-Hash: aa462fbf543e4c101b670c4a26cf75ac This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --G0sGphihIwUgqmbheTlsfmR1mgmX298hn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 12.11.2013 03:55, Dustin C. Hatch =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On 11/11/2013 06:51, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:47:30 +0100 >> Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >> >>> Silent removals do us no good. > ... >> >> 1) dev-only seems to be the main cause of lost announcements, which >> isn't that worry some as most of us still receive them but it wou= ld >> be nice for them to be in dev-announce as well; >=20 > This is actually the reason I subscribed to -dev in the first place. I > started noticing that some packages I needed/used/used to use/etc. were= > being removed and I wanted to find out why. At first, I subscribed to > -announce and -dev-announce, but I found that I still wasn't being > notified. And this is bad thing, cause IIRC devmanual says that such removals should be sent to -dev-announce. > I know overlays aren't officially supported, but the courtesy of > announcing package removals, especially libraries, would be much > appreciated. There have been times that a library I use for an internal= > project, for example, was removed without notice, forcing me to look at= > the CVS attic to find out why. More often than not, though, the commit > message is simply "removed" or "clean up," which is just as unhelpful. > While I have no problem copying stuff back out of the attic into a loca= l > overlay, it would be nice to prepare for that before something breaks. >=20 > Thank you, >=20 --=20 Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead --G0sGphihIwUgqmbheTlsfmR1mgmX298hn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSgcktAAoJECo/aRed9267WisH+gP9xxArPRWQwWQ7tpxTn9LB b/5m1C1nZBi7IIEQI/zS0XR7akqkPSDJ9aCY/98OtANVK9aeeZ37sSTUCBEyzqAD He6sw+OgZSMkba2Vbqz+XGr7lKT+oVvzd5bqef0nNtL3/3hjorYj7RgmT6874A31 /sNn5y/kXnY9/vi1b3pRrvjytvDpLOXOY4BkSD9Be9TTYg6uHZcWDxmIhy4W3SXJ VfxB0wySaoLVZEGbXCgoFrbfYPbBy/QVHxOc+o4Duss+0QyQtyugFHJJqoKFZbKw bNYFoe7zOxLYtzA4jFmvxVTIAovvWaMlAWzvk5TfwqgmqWvs/IBrvqGBjvqWNRM= =YLaQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G0sGphihIwUgqmbheTlsfmR1mgmX298hn--