From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AFB138247 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66CC5E0BB7; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8594EE0B8A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id vb8so2187910obc.25 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:55:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EdzWqJXO0Dq3L6oDCiPyYvo6cjTCOVbszkWzjmoLI2c=; b=llbn8ClXbMkpisPOEqo5n1FkEhQpECLz0E3HnEQoavKwSmYSWqA8HuFVMiAlj1wsId TL5PblAwS6yieGUjkY89IuqQ35kGJesq6ROYqO3P1amC143pFOVzioAwN77IIKVEGtlF NJEIdMJCOQvrxRXvt1LK3XPt/1WjPGAAeqx4Ytv7r5CSRy/yMxl5as82EJvuZXqqhRdn 6FRbDjxJ8S0t6c5gwO8e4KwvUfufPJvz6PbkBm6cF5odfhLs7z+sZFAldJ8whroD+fYD 96SR4us2b29naY7CMi0+z23NbNPRXeWkH1uJgSFUsalOXh8NZ21o6+s0xejxCToS/Sg6 G67g== X-Received: by 10.182.65.36 with SMTP id u4mr21084557obs.31.1384214109525; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.31.0.8] (cpe-75-87-80-46.kc.res.rr.com. [75.87.80.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qe2sm29553400obc.1.2013.11.11.15.55.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 15:55:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52816E5B.4050706@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:55:07 -0600 From: "Dustin C. Hatch" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Package removal without proper last-riting References: <5280A447.8050707@gentoo.org> <5280A5B0.5020106@gentoo.org> <20131111104730.1e6420d4@gentoo.org> <20131111135122.4f6740ea@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20131111135122.4f6740ea@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 1d69623e-577b-4b26-acf8-ed3f3c14c79e X-Archives-Hash: 433afa46d5aabf746c816b7a75e79190 On 11/11/2013 06:51, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:47:30 +0100 > Michał Górny wrote: > >> Silent removals do us no good. ... > > 1) dev-only seems to be the main cause of lost announcements, which > isn't that worry some as most of us still receive them but it would > be nice for them to be in dev-announce as well; This is actually the reason I subscribed to -dev in the first place. I started noticing that some packages I needed/used/used to use/etc. were being removed and I wanted to find out why. At first, I subscribed to -announce and -dev-announce, but I found that I still wasn't being notified. I know overlays aren't officially supported, but the courtesy of announcing package removals, especially libraries, would be much appreciated. There have been times that a library I use for an internal project, for example, was removed without notice, forcing me to look at the CVS attic to find out why. More often than not, though, the commit message is simply "removed" or "clean up," which is just as unhelpful. While I have no problem copying stuff back out of the attic into a local overlay, it would be nice to prepare for that before something breaks. Thank you, -- ♫Dustin http://dustin.hatch.name/