From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFE2138247 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 14:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE7C6E0944; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 14:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD16E08DC for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 14:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (unknown [80.80.98.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pinkbyte) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7465733F1BA for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <527F9827.7070308@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:28:55 +0400 From: Sergey Popov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131005 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: support the Dev team with system resources References: <527AA26B.5070907@politeia.in> <527ACE3B.7020105@politeia.in> <527BA821.1060808@gentoo.org> <527BDB69.6030200@gentoo.org> <527BF11B.8040408@gentoo.org> <527BF32A.9030502@politeia.in> <527C70CD.2090102@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <527C70CD.2090102@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8Kv366rttswcrLSEE3Ah0te8Pc1MuLAM1" X-Archives-Salt: b82d8adb-ae25-4a62-8ded-63cb902ad690 X-Archives-Hash: 65ca03eadc3cdb5b1652a9d6a3261334 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8Kv366rttswcrLSEE3Ah0te8Pc1MuLAM1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 08.11.2013 09:04, Johann Schmitz =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On 07.11.2013 21:18, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Seriously, though, I'd love to see these needs better supported. >> I think we need to start by defining what the needs actually are >> (less redundancy, more consistency, etc). Then we figure out how >> to best address them. It could be individuals donating VMs, or it >> might be Gentoo buying resources from any number of vendors, or it >> could be Gentoo going out and looking for donors. >=20 > I agree with that. It's easier to decide what to do if we know what we > need. A solution built by the infra team would be the best solution > for the same reasons why it's better to put stuff on the devspace > instead of private servers (availabilty; who can fix stuff, logins, etc= ). >=20 > But if someone need resources and a box to play with I would happily > provide an Xen instance. Just wondering: How is the AT for $minorarch > done? Is it possible to run, say, mips on xen/whatever through some > emulation layer or is real hardware a requirement for this archs? >=20 >=20 > For the security concerns: I think these boxes should be used for > testing only and not for development - every commit must be done from > a box fully under the dev's control. >=20 >=20 Usually it is done via qemu, but as was said - it is damn slow. I use qemu for emulating ARM device for compilation, cause it's faster than compile on device(Raspberry Pi) itself mostly because of I/O. --=20 Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead --8Kv366rttswcrLSEE3Ah0te8Pc1MuLAM1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSf5gsAAoJECo/aRed9267xtQIAIM9HZMmHoPx66+J3hvWzwnj pgpD+tHGHLyOrMBt9OCibcIwU73arYkrMLS2eAPbxyGAcQqJaoYLNYPAThoj/D+L oOuDED+zLTyhDXHihay0gI2hv8V9WnDPzq/gpbfGugbDPuT4wc5s6oFudXXJSXt6 OGzx1IlSTCY8rf+WFPBfWlucdrX00n/M7H2z6Tx84dF7WFEqUp9Ar8HUPJbrlSh1 wTqFZ9Eq03vetCgkfkiJ2Q42i77Apb89f1RVl01BL/uTpKm4JkBtMcxC8Vv4vIEh GH+WrxB4mmPen1dXYsbs0563k3bjFrv9PMsjuMrmh7oEk4EXMtKGFdOMXvt4j+c= =zrzF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8Kv366rttswcrLSEE3Ah0te8Pc1MuLAM1--