[gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Markos Chandras]

Hi,

I see nobody seems to take care of nagios packages anymore.
There are numerous bugs (and many of them are pending version bumps).

Is the sysadmin@ herd still interested in this package? If not, could
you please consider moving it to maintainer-needed@? Maybe users are
interested in working with proxy-maintainers to bring this package up
to date.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=net-analyzer%2Fnagios

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Chris Reffett]

On 11/8/2013 7:14 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see nobody seems to take care of nagios packages anymore.
> There are numerous bugs (and many of them are pending version bumps).
>
> Is the sysadmin@ herd still interested in this package? If not, could
> you please consider moving it to maintainer-needed@? Maybe users are
> interested in working with proxy-maintainers to bring this package up
> to date.
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=net-analyzer%2Fnagios
>
If sysadmin@ doesn't want it, I know a user/potential dev who would be
interested in maintaining it with me as a proxy. Just let me know.

Chris reffett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Lars Wendler]

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Am Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:17:27 -0500
schrieb Chris Reffett <creffett@gentoo.org>:

> On 11/8/2013 7:14 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I see nobody seems to take care of nagios packages anymore.
> > There are numerous bugs (and many of them are pending version
> > bumps).
> >
> > Is the sysadmin@ herd still interested in this package? If not,
> > could you please consider moving it to maintainer-needed@? Maybe
> > users are interested in working with proxy-maintainers to bring
> > this package up to date.
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=net-analyzer%2Fnagios
> >
> If sysadmin@ doesn't want it, I know a user/potential dev who would be
> interested in maintaining it with me as a proxy. Just let me know.
> 
> Chris reffett
> 

Oh dear...

I already have too many packages to take care of but my company is using
nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I wouldn't mind if
somebody else helps with the packages as well.

Cheers
-- 
Lars Wendler
Gentoo package maintainer

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Alex Alexander]

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On 9 Nov 2013 12:16, "Lars Wendler" <polynomial-c@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Am Fri, 08 Nov 2013 20:17:27 -0500
> schrieb Chris Reffett <creffett@gentoo.org>:
>
> > On 11/8/2013 7:14 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I see nobody seems to take care of nagios packages anymore.
> > > There are numerous bugs (and many of them are pending version
> > > bumps).
> > >
> > > Is the sysadmin@ herd still interested in this package? If not,
> > > could you please consider moving it to maintainer-needed@? Maybe
> > > users are interested in working with proxy-maintainers to bring
> > > this package up to date.
> > >
> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=net-analyzer%2Fnagios
> > >
> > If sysadmin@ doesn't want it, I know a user/potential dev who would be
> > interested in maintaining it with me as a proxy. Just let me know.
> >
> > Chris reffett
> >
>
> Oh dear...
>
> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company is using
> nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I wouldn't mind if
> somebody else helps with the packages as well.

I would like to help as well.

Nagios herd + git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)

Alex | wired

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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Seems like I forgot to select reply all earlier.

I'm going to look into that next week. I failed to resetup my monitoring
after I left my previous customer and I've reinstalled icinga just this
week.

I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we
don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Alex Alexander]

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
<flameeyes@flameeyes.eu>wrote:

> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we
> don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.


Herds are definitely not the solution for everything, but they make sense
when you have multiple people interested in maintaining large sets of
ebuilds. If nothing else, they make life easier for bug wranglers,
especially when you have >2 maintainers.

-- 
Alex Alexander
+ wired
+ www.linuxized.com
+ www.leetworks.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Alex Alexander <wired@gentoo.org> wrote:

>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@flameeyes.eu
> > wrote:
>
>> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given
>> we don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
>> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.
>
>
> Herds are definitely not the solution for everything, but they make sense
> when you have multiple people interested in maintaining large sets of
> ebuilds. If nothing else, they make life easier for bug wranglers,
> especially when you have >2 maintainers.
>

You read my comment the wrong way (or I wrote it too hastily to be
understood). I mean I don't see the need to split sysadmin herd in three or
more. Sure there is stuff in sysadmin that I don't care about because I
don't use, but nothing forces me to maintain all of it. And if nobody cares
about I'm perfectly fine to mark it as m-n.

But I don't see the point in saying "well, nobody cares about nagios but
two people, so we're moving it to a nagios herd". Might as well just use
the two maintainers there, then.

Yes I know I haven't been active at all. My time management is terrible and
even after meeting Tom Limoncelli in person I doubt I'll magically start
getting better at it, but I'll try to work on it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Rich Freeman]

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò
<flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote:
> But I don't see the point in saying "well, nobody cares about nagios but two
> people, so we're moving it to a nagios herd". Might as well just use the two
> maintainers there, then.

++

Aliases and herds make sense when you actually have many devs
coordinating with some coming and going and such.  When it just
happens to be that two people take care of one package it really isn't
necessary.  I co-maintain a few packages with one other dev and the
one that has an alias doesn't really add any value (aside from reading
occasional complaints from the other dev on the alias when he is
directly CC'ed and gets double-mail (situation already resolved)).

The only thing going for nagios is that there are many packages, so if
maintainers do come and go there would be a lot less to edit if an
alias were used.

Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:30:43 +0200
Alex Alexander <wired@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Herds are definitely not the solution for everything, but they make
> sense when you have multiple people interested in maintaining large
> sets of ebuilds.

For multiple packages, yes; but I don't see any gain for a single one.

> If nothing else, they make life easier for bug wranglers, especially
> when you have >2 maintainers.

Not really; even if you list a ton of maintainers, it takes one
shortcut key press on a bug page to add all of them right away.

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Alex Alexander]

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
<flameeyes@flameeyes.eu>wrote:

>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Alex Alexander <wired@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò <
>> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given
>>> we don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
>>> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.
>>
>>
>> Herds are definitely not the solution for everything, but they make sense
>> when you have multiple people interested in maintaining large sets of
>> ebuilds. If nothing else, they make life easier for bug wranglers,
>> especially when you have >2 maintainers.
>>
>
> You read my comment the wrong way (or I wrote it too hastily to be
> understood). I mean I don't see the need to split sysadmin herd in three or
> more. Sure there is stuff in sysadmin that I don't care about because I
> don't use, but nothing forces me to maintain all of it. And if nobody cares
> about I'm perfectly fine to mark it as m-n.
>
> But I don't see the point in saying "well, nobody cares about nagios but
> two people, so we're moving it to a nagios herd". Might as well just use
> the two maintainers there, then.
>
> Yes I know I haven't been active at all. My time management is terrible
> and even after meeting Tom Limoncelli in person I doubt I'll magically
> start getting better at it, but I'll try to work on it.
>

I misunderstood you, I thought you were comparing having herds to not
having herds at all, my bad. I replied hastily and didn't consider that
nagios and friends are part of a herd already.

I agree that splitting herds is not necessary in a case like this.

-- 
Alex Alexander
+ wired
+ www.linuxized.com
+ www.leetworks.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Johann Schmitz]

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>> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company
>> is using nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I
>> wouldn't mind if somebody else helps with the packages as well.

We use Nagios on many servers at work, so i can help out with these
packages too.

> ... git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)

A git repo would be useful if there are many changes to the code (e.g.
plugins). From what i see in the buglist, most of the bugs are ebuild
related (bumps, compile and installation issues).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Matthew Thode]

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On 11/09/2013 09:20 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> Seems like I forgot to select reply all earlier.
> 
> I'm going to look into that next week. I failed to resetup my monitoring
> after I left my previous customer and I've reinstalled icinga just this
> week.
> 
> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we
> don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.
> 
If you are interested in co-maintaining with me I'd be interested in
helping with the plugins (nrpe/nsca agent/plugins and pnp4nagios).  I
already do the icinga packages but I feel like I am starting to spread
myself thing with openstack and everything :(

-- 
-- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Markos Chandras]

On 11/10/2013 10:27 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
> On 11/09/2013 09:20 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>> Seems like I forgot to select reply all earlier.
>>
>> I'm going to look into that next week. I failed to resetup my monitoring
>> after I left my previous customer and I've reinstalled icinga just this
>> week.
>>
>> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given we
>> don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
>> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.
>>
> If you are interested in co-maintaining with me I'd be interested in
> helping with the plugins (nrpe/nsca agent/plugins and pnp4nagios).  I
> already do the icinga packages but I feel like I am starting to spread
> myself thing with openstack and everything :(
> 
(picking up a random e-mail from the thread)

2 weeks later and the number bugs is pretty much the same. I suggest
whoever is interested in helping out to add himself to metadata given no
coordination has happened so far.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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Quick note: I forgot my key from this laptop does not let me commit. I had
some fixes done, but I'll have to wait to get back to Ireland to commit
again, as the key is physically there.


Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org>wrote:

> On 11/10/2013 10:27 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
> > On 11/09/2013 09:20 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> >> Seems like I forgot to select reply all earlier.
> >>
> >> I'm going to look into that next week. I failed to resetup my monitoring
> >> after I left my previous customer and I've reinstalled icinga just this
> >> week.
> >>
> >> I don't understand people's insistence with a single product herd given
> we
> >> don't have enough manpower yet and I don't want to have an explosion of
> >> aliases I need to subscribe to, the spam is enough as it is.
> >>
> > If you are interested in co-maintaining with me I'd be interested in
> > helping with the plugins (nrpe/nsca agent/plugins and pnp4nagios).  I
> > already do the icinga packages but I feel like I am starting to spread
> > myself thing with openstack and everything :(
> >
> (picking up a random e-mail from the thread)
>
> 2 weeks later and the number bugs is pretty much the same. I suggest
> whoever is interested in helping out to add himself to metadata given no
> coordination has happened so far.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Markos Chandras
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Markos Chandras]

On 11/10/2013 06:12 AM, Johann Schmitz wrote:
> - gpg control packet
>>> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company
>>> is using nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I
>>> wouldn't mind if somebody else helps with the packages as well.
> 
> We use Nagios on many servers at work, so i can help out with these
> packages too.
> 
>> ... git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)
> 
> A git repo would be useful if there are many changes to the code (e.g.
> plugins). From what i see in the buglist, most of the bugs are ebuild
> related (bumps, compile and installation issues).
> 
> 
(picking a random email from the thread)

ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we
consider dropping it to maintainer-needed?

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Andrew Hamilton]

On 1/25/2014 9:24 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 11/10/2013 06:12 AM, Johann Schmitz wrote:
>> - gpg control packet
>>>> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company
>>>> is using nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I
>>>> wouldn't mind if somebody else helps with the packages as well.
>>
>> We use Nagios on many servers at work, so i can help out with these
>> packages too.
>>
>>> ... git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)
>>
>> A git repo would be useful if there are many changes to the code (e.g.
>> plugins). From what i see in the buglist, most of the bugs are ebuild
>> related (bumps, compile and installation issues).
>>
>>
> (picking a random email from the thread)
> 
> ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we
> consider dropping it to maintainer-needed?
> 
I would be happy to proxy-maintain these packages.

Andrew Hamilton

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 01/25/2014 09:24 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> (picking a random email from the thread)
> 
> ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we
> consider dropping it to maintainer-needed?
> 

These are easy fixes, some for nagios-plugins:

  * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434192
  * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388323
  * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457042
  * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483530 (QA can fix this)
  * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481926

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Chris Reffett]

On 01/25/2014 12:22 PM, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
> On 1/25/2014 9:24 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 11/10/2013 06:12 AM, Johann Schmitz wrote:
>>> - gpg control packet
>>>>> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company
>>>>> is using nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I
>>>>> wouldn't mind if somebody else helps with the packages as well.
>>>
>>> We use Nagios on many servers at work, so i can help out with these
>>> packages too.
>>>
>>>> ... git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)
>>>
>>> A git repo would be useful if there are many changes to the code (e.g.
>>> plugins). From what i see in the buglist, most of the bugs are ebuild
>>> related (bumps, compile and installation issues).
>>>
>>>
>> (picking a random email from the thread)
>>
>> ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we
>> consider dropping it to maintainer-needed?
>>
> I would be happy to proxy-maintain these packages.
> 
> Andrew Hamilton
> 
I will proxy for him, will update metadata shortly.

Chris Reffett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

[Markos Chandras]

On 01/26/2014 01:57 AM, Chris Reffett wrote:
> On 01/25/2014 12:22 PM, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
>> On 1/25/2014 9:24 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2013 06:12 AM, Johann Schmitz wrote:
>>>> - gpg control packet
>>>>>> I already have too many packages to take care of but my company
>>>>>> is using nagion on Gentoo so I take care of it. Although I
>>>>>> wouldn't mind if somebody else helps with the packages as well.
>>>>
>>>> We use Nagios on many servers at work, so i can help out with these
>>>> packages too.
>>>>
>>>>> ... git overlay for easier nondev contributions? :)
>>>>
>>>> A git repo would be useful if there are many changes to the code (e.g.
>>>> plugins). From what i see in the buglist, most of the bugs are ebuild
>>>> related (bumps, compile and installation issues).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> (picking a random email from the thread)
>>>
>>> ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we
>>> consider dropping it to maintainer-needed?
>>>
>> I would be happy to proxy-maintain these packages.
>>
>> Andrew Hamilton
>>
> I will proxy for him, will update metadata shortly.
> 
> Chris Reffett
> 
Thanks everyone! Please add proxy-maint and I will make sure Andrew's
change will find their way in the tree whenever I have the time.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras