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Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200
From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec
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On 03/11/2013 01:45, yac wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 19:19:21 -0400
> "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> On 11/02/2013 06:09 PM, yac wrote:
>>> I don't know how this releng stuff works. I bet there is lot of devs
>>> who don't.
>>
>> This is why you should announce risking commits. Because you may not
>> know what it will cause, but others will.
>>
>
> If I don't know in the first place, how do I know it's risky?
Assessing risk is somewhat intuitive and relies heavily on experience.
python-exec changes python wrapper scripts, emerge is coded in python.
You have the makings of a circular dep right there and alarms bells
should already be going off in your head.
With risk, you almost always already DO have more information than at
first appears. Learn to trust the little voice in your head, when it
pipes up rather be careful and double check.
>
> Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there?
It's always been "emerge -avuND world"
>
> I personally got used to -uaNDv and I don't even know what exactly is
> the difference and it's implications between that and just -uD
the difference is -N, it's in man emerge
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com