From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF96138247 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8F47E0B08; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7D11E0AF3 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (pool-96-236-212-126.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [96.236.212.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC05D33EF85 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52755089.6090808@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:20:41 -0400 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec References: <5274FB3D.8080508@gentoo.org> <20131102145126.3c1f6cd7@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20131102160330.0e6eaa5e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20131102160330.0e6eaa5e@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: a8a1774d-c632-4e9e-abe9-20af0cd3c2c7 X-Archives-Hash: 53e392fed07ac9580f072b99894339ff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2013 11:03 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-11-02, o godz. 14:51:26 > Tom Wijsman napisał(a): > >> On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:16:45 -0400 >> "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >> >>> This is a followup to a discussion on IRC yesterday regarding >>> breakage that's occurring to catalyst builds as a result of the >>> recent move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec. >> >> This has been happening to users as well, for example: >> >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-973998.html >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-974412.html >> >> To move forward and get this resolved, some questions: >> >> 1. Has this been resolved for users? Do they just need to sync? >> 2. If not resolved for users, what is the best temporary workaround? >> 3. Are you able to fix this? Do you need help to fix this? >> 4. Depending on the nature of the fix: Would a news item be needed? > > From what I heard, most of people get this working through a plain: > > emerge -Du @world > > If someone is really reluctant to world updates, it is enough to > upgrade dev-python/python-exec to 10000.*: > > emerge -1v dev-python/python-exec > > I was considering writing a news item for it but we discussed it on IRC > and decided that users are really expected to be able to handle > themselves, especially wrt to: > > 1. using 'emerge -Du @world' to upgrade their systems, > > 2. reading the blocker output to see that it states > ' which suggests: what if I upgrade to > 10000? > > If you believe that a news item would be helpful, I'm happy to write > it. Just please make sure that we're all in agreement over the method > of handling the issue. A news item isn't enough for breaking autobuilds. If we can't find a way to do this properly so portage knows how to upgrade then it is being done WRONG. Autobuilds break, gentoo can't be installed, the distro dies. I know, sounds like I'm making something out of nothing but every time people look at the stages and notice they are months out of date we find another blog post announcing how gentoo is dead. Honestly, if I knew a way to fix this I would have already made any changes needed to fix it. Please fix this, because if you don't, eventually I'll find a way and I doubt you will like it. - -Zero > > Additionally, the news item would state how to get rid of the old deps. > This will presumably involve something like: > > emerge -1v $( qdepends -NCQ dev-python/python-exec ) > > Please note that 'equery d' from gentoolkit is currently broken due to > some random magic inside portage and doesn't list all the packages > correctly. > > However, for the latter it would be probably preferred to wait with it > till python-exec:2 is stable on all arches to avoid rebuilding packages > twice in a short time. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSdVCJAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKLiwP/AjlCVUKeHo7wI8FO6W/VE4u 2Pv2VqaRGQ3KDn/yvHfClfXib8Eu4/KE1cc8kUoP4vspRQLiCz3qMqtYqFy9Y3DF fPYbBL5w4Z1V/sAho9pd3f2XHAOYwM/G1cD2GfbEHY5XdR4rk8w3AzK8cTCO5gL4 DmbBS1t/G3fLoNBud4pCpM+QCD1edwHWSptjWS2lQN9hNI9VwOBrXmuBKLPHR05F JyLWiiTbHPD6y/UquVa9uqdcHRJ5uTAyu9CZPu4CDrC3sJuFYuZxYZc2s4VjqyLo YKXhp5RJjFJT23ZNhM1eAUCH2jxiJM8JoTRC1gYY1mKuWqL3gLojPDjTqS5ukya6 C8mZ9dqEtqEisJuUQPBkuhfKfClmk0sDCTwrtEJCe4day7gX9w5uPZO1oFrJ+/8Y 6M0chyaU33XaZBIRLMo/KaCg0MccW3Oob2AVo8pesrPrmQwPnXnGvps8rlbrkpv+ lFdx1yh/phW2oWq3yVHf4LlPgrajDrgLzDgcVXYKByG/Nd2pKkkbzq/JfAwtfzck fpufYDbWF3j8ErVGjzWWQLR4NOzf01NC5Q/U4dCVR+Yy4+a0joSuTB6fz2+eFjz8 6NCr7i+lYPcrnnlvf97XBvXhbsf0NIhwiJtMkLi72LKgI+Wn3D/Xc3H62KqjsXDf Hc3RqAPCSO/GAqf5hqVl =VeiN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----