From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE061381F3 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E969E0B2C; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:03:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED5DE0AB3 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [91.220.220.251] (pinkbyte.micronet-rostov.ru [91.220.220.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pinkbyte) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E209333F292 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52663F25.8000804@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:02:29 +0400 From: Sergey Popov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130923 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] OT: user-developer/privileges in IRC References: <20131020141538.1cfd7b3d@gentoo.org> <5263C9C6.6010709@gentoo.org> <105901382271553@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263CB10.9020908@gentoo.org> <113051382272012@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263E4F1.10804@gentoo.org> <5263E953.4030400@gentoo.org> <5263EB44.8060301@gentoo.org> <20131022015317.426.qmail@stuge.se> <20131022031901.7678.qmail@stuge.se> In-Reply-To: <20131022031901.7678.qmail@stuge.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="23djOe91ab3xTanS65db3g1GgepHkgi1X" X-Archives-Salt: e52b5697-8767-4b9e-9d83-e9891e1f9e4e X-Archives-Hash: 19ce7368621d74c2d71627deb0f00d59 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --23djOe91ab3xTanS65db3g1GgepHkgi1X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 22.10.2013 07:19, Peter Stuge =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > I should have included bugzilla among mailing lists+IRC, users can > indeed also have elevated privileges on IRC, but never equal to > developers. It is radical exclusion and I'm reminded of it every > time the #gentoo-dev channel mode catches my eye, painfully so if > there's a discussion I could perhaps contribute to. Most of the time > it is easy enough to say something privately to a relevant developer, > but that's still very different from actual participation. >=20 Yes, and i think that it was done for a reason. But nobody stops you from requesting temporarily voice on #gentoo-dev and when you contributions will be marked as significant - gentoo/contributor cloak, that will give you permanent voice in #gentoo-dev. You should understand that #gentoo-dev is channel for developer's communication primarily and it is not so restricted, as you think. For example, #gentoo-infra is totally restricted to developers only, other interested parties should be added to channel ACLs explicitly or should get invite there. --=20 Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead --23djOe91ab3xTanS65db3g1GgepHkgi1X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSZj8mAAoJECo/aRed9267TZEH/0QrJf9UtiLHFt3DOaOI6qlk 6+vFrY452jJJ8yj5lIaTb2w33/UZkjt9TSGkFV3OK3PC3/JvuHllw3vPlGOw0CZC ZuPcJeDcYe9yxklm/lRQ33QA4H0ud//qV1HfFMBxvkocgvYcBU7WIPEsmavmsrJc aOS9yX8kK4M0aPVihCTCiuNbhPAD4bT80yz8/Xf2lMoQqX+VEp5ZZK/Lxog5H40p B8Gpp46/NcNpEUW9c4XLLop8XMSnqC0i0ezVnDKNAQVCzfcFIzv4q8RZ/BwgfLbr X1DSXlzX9EcwNDFXPbPtRdY5B+LO42S8TIAEkKdp/7C4GtnDH3JPGMhe5c4VTA4= =l98K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --23djOe91ab3xTanS65db3g1GgepHkgi1X--