From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57A71381F3 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 698A0E0B80; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88B1CE0AE0 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:40:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.5] (blfd-4db0fab4.pool.mediaWays.net [77.176.250.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DF9D33EFA1 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5263F97E.8010105@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:40:46 +0200 From: hasufell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130922 Thunderbird/17.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository References: <5263C7F9.9080300@gentoo.org> <20131020141538.1cfd7b3d@gentoo.org> <5263C9C6.6010709@gentoo.org> <105901382271553@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263CB10.9020908@gentoo.org> <113051382272012@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263E4F1.10804@gentoo.org> <5263E953.4030400@gentoo.org> <5263EB44.8060301@gentoo.org> <5263F529.8070708@gentoo.org> <5263F61C.6060800@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5263F61C.6060800@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 9ede3541-ce36-40c7-b17f-84459be22a8a X-Archives-Hash: d8c6d0e1d2e38222fe735bbb874950d2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: >>>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: >>>>>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever >>>>>>> from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to >>>>>> back to work on it together with community. >>>>>> >>>>>>> * low quality >>>>>> low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many >>>>>> lower-quality ebuilds in the tree. Or do you mean low >>>>>> quality of something else? Anyway, it is fixable too. >>>>>> Just let's start work on it. >>>>>> >>>>> I agree. >>>> >>>>> It's better to work with the user community and join >>>>> efforts than having yet-another-shiny overlay. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gamerlay is not related to the games team and this thread is >>>> not about gamerlay which is a project that has failed. I have >>>> zero interest to work on gamerlay. It would have to start >>>> with removing direct commit access of users. >> >>> This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. >>> If you intend to make the game overlay and team a >>> developer-only thing you are doing a great work. >> >> >> I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first >> post. Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct >> commit access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not >> sure what you mean with "developer-only"). >> > > I was mainly referring to your way to exluding this community which > is already working on the gaming side of Gentoo. You shouldn't > ignore active contributors because their ebuilds happen to be of > lower quality. Thanks for your opinion on this. It's nice to see that my efforts of (unrequested) reviews on bugzilla, overlays, forums and sunrise makes you say that I ignore contributors. Especially those contributors who respond to or even request reviews (many don't even respond to unrequested reviews). Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that? I don't think this discussion leads anywhere. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSY/l+AAoJEFpvPKfnPDWzulQIAKa4qBEE62Zxta3Lv2dB5sHr JoBJiOQbX0S2SfmeZSUg4OCkyKzSRyxIXhS+3X86AwkYR/TWcc7a4pwaQvYlUIjz YA2HRFY00AWVjNzgYRmwYaggRsJ6TI8iIsNXnWEYkB+TVHrlewwwJn+hNF4ELD25 fNsHTxduY8yFiPTgYSKvp84xAC0SVGds4xc5WOITuYngRp5sdq0SELr5JSOjw6tR qbrQ79eG4vB+j2ye0zG1BoXtKP2uaP0cSIjPL6OvzXCX4+l27czrp6akHYihFsZz +i2JfGN5XGpEi3l6AFVD8VZi0/oUwSR/d6bKoo+crLBhS+29MzFfYuS/Ob7hrfg= =3rmu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----