From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E571381F3 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DF28E0C5F; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92AC6E0BF1 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [94.6.147.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hwoarang) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5971333EF91 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5263F61C.6060800@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:26:20 +0100 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository References: <5263C7F9.9080300@gentoo.org> <20131020141538.1cfd7b3d@gentoo.org> <5263C9C6.6010709@gentoo.org> <105901382271553@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263CB10.9020908@gentoo.org> <113051382272012@web25h.yandex.ru> <5263E4F1.10804@gentoo.org> <5263E953.4030400@gentoo.org> <5263EB44.8060301@gentoo.org> <5263F529.8070708@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5263F529.8070708@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 9fbb1a0e-07b9-4fc4-afd4-616e244fce96 X-Archives-Hash: 37b1f44b022423b1e107eed7232ca5ef On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: >>>>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from >>>>>> any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there >>>>> >>>>> It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to back >>>>> to work on it together with community. >>>>> >>>>>> * low quality >>>>> low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many >>>>> lower-quality ebuilds in the tree. Or do you mean low quality >>>>> of something else? Anyway, it is fixable too. Just let's >>>>> start work on it. >>>>> >>>> I agree. >>> >>>> It's better to work with the user community and join efforts >>>> than having yet-another-shiny overlay. >>> >>> >>> Gamerlay is not related to the games team and this thread is not >>> about gamerlay which is a project that has failed. I have zero >>> interest to work on gamerlay. It would have to start with >>> removing direct commit access of users. > >> This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. If >> you intend to make the game overlay and team a developer-only thing >> you are doing a great work. > > > I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first post. > Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct commit > access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not sure what you > mean with "developer-only"). > I was mainly referring to your way to exluding this community which is already working on the gaming side of Gentoo. You shouldn't ignore active contributors because their ebuilds happen to be of lower quality. It would be nice if you could try to actually talk to them and find a way to make them contribute to your new overlay otherwise you may end up actually be the only maintainer of it. -- Regards, Markos Chandras