From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F071381F3 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8EA6E0B70; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07F43E0B5D for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.177.28.231] (85-76-123-30-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.123.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB80433EB7B for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 06:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5205E3B7.5020906@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:54:47 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130802 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 References: <1375881254.7753.41.camel@rook> <5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org> <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <20130808172340.7d2424af@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5203C908.1000304@gentoo.org> <20130808185357.4208db83@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5204376B.60305@gentoo.org> <20130810040309.GB14336@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20130810040309.GB14336@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7310805e-00b0-4309-a259-513e6e15748f X-Archives-Hash: 6d702c390be7d4ec7840382d0b2e7684 On 10/08/13 07:03, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:27:23AM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote > >> What makes this situation so difficult is that it's not a single >> random package, but one of the bigger desktop environments that >> has painted itself into a corner. (Plus an uncooperative upstream, >> so all the "blame" gets thrown at the gentoo maintainers from both >> sides. Awesome way to destroy crew morale :) ) > > I don't think you realize what you're asking for. This is a lot more > than just a few patches. You're effectively asking for fork of GNOME, > just like eudev has forked from udev. GNOME forks already exist. Just > off the top of my head... XFCE, Cinnamon, Consort, Mint, Mate, Kate, > Unity, etc, etc. If you don't like GNOME, try one of them. > XFCE is far from being a fork of GNOME, you must have confused something