From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7631381F3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16EEDE0E3D; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5C1E0E1B for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.188.1] (82-71-33-97.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.33.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ikelos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D52F33EBBD; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52057BF8.8000903@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:32:08 +0100 From: Mike Auty User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130711 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org CC: Tom Wijsman , yngwin@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 References: <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <20130808172340.7d2424af@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5203C908.1000304@gentoo.org> <20130808185357.4208db83@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130808202627.4b474471@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809020303.GA11215@linux1> <1376033807.30224.21.camel@kanae> <5204B6A9.1080309@gentoo.org> <5204D30A.703@gentoo.org> <20130809132622.70e67d5c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5204D4DC.30108@gentoo.org> <20130809134525.51585175@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809155709.2b48ebd5@gentoo.org> <20130809223252.433f708a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20130809223252.433f708a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: c6d0f00a-7e9e-4ac8-a614-92548956bfec X-Archives-Hash: 4e1440c2a5564e75591307ac52c3b3ba -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/08/13 21:32, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:11:55 +0800 Ben de Groot > wrote: > >> On 9 August 2013 21:57, Michał Górny wrote: >>> This one is *so special* just because we have a few folks >>> which really have nothing useful to do and instead spit their >>> systemd hatred on gentoo-dev@ and expect others to join their >>> stupid vendetta. >> >> Please keep your insults off this list. You may want to deny >> them, but there are valid reasons why people oppose systemd. It >> doesn't help to keep so aggressively pushing it. > > Neither does it help to make statements like "People are free to > use a saner desktop environment..." which add nothing to the > discussion, which in fact can be seen as an insult as well; because > "sane" basically stands for "free from mental derangement" or "free > from being unreasonably, unsound judgment or bad sense" where both > come close to what people will perceive as the negative form of > "stupid". I'm not sure where you're quoting from, it doesn't appear to have been the thread Ben was commenting on. I'm glad someone stepped in and said something, Michael's comments appeared overly aggressive, as they would have even if the word hatred had read agenda. I'm not sure why there were so many rebuttals of his request to keep things civil. It wasn't a statement for or against systemd, it was a request to maintain a hospitable environment... Mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlIFe/gACgkQu7rWomwgFXr5sACeJkIl6rDKmyVdNmaQW9HupK35 s4MAn3EvU9agxaAOJI5Gf7uHUqcEJ7Mv =x6Dm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----