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From: Mike Auty <ikelos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>, yngwin@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:32:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52057BF8.8000903@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130809223252.433f708a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO>

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On 09/08/13 21:32, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 03:11:55 +0800 Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 9 August 2013 21:57, Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> This one is *so special* just because we have a few folks
>>> which really have nothing useful to do and instead spit their
>>> systemd hatred on gentoo-dev@ and expect others to join their
>>> stupid vendetta.
>> 
>> Please keep your insults off this list. You may want to deny
>> them, but there are valid reasons why people oppose systemd. It
>> doesn't help to keep so aggressively pushing it.
> 
> Neither does it help to make statements like "People are free to
> use a saner desktop environment..." which add nothing to the
> discussion, which in fact can be seen as an insult as well; because
> "sane" basically stands for "free from mental derangement" or "free
> from being unreasonably, unsound judgment or bad sense" where both
> come close to what people will perceive as the negative form of
> "stupid".

I'm not sure where you're quoting from, it doesn't appear to have been
the thread Ben was commenting on.

I'm glad someone stepped in and said something, Michael's comments
appeared overly aggressive, as they would have even if the word hatred
had read agenda.  I'm not sure why there were so many rebuttals of his
request to keep things civil.  It wasn't a statement for or against
systemd, it was a request to maintain a hospitable environment...

Mike
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-09 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 12:45 [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Michael Weber
2013-08-07 13:14 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2013-08-07 13:56   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-07 15:22     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-07 23:49   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-08  2:51     ` Alex Alexander
2013-08-08  9:29     ` hasufell
2013-08-08  9:43       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 11:19         ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 11:28           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 10:05       ` Michał Górny
2013-08-08 10:30         ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 14:01     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-08-08 14:10       ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 14:30         ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-08-08 14:45         ` Michał Górny
2013-08-08 14:17       ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-08 14:34         ` Ben Kohler
2013-08-08 14:56           ` hasufell
2013-08-08 15:16             ` Damien Levac
2013-08-08 15:40               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-08 15:49                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 15:56                 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:02                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:13                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:20                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-08 16:24                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:58                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-09 13:10                 ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-08 15:23             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 16:36               ` hasufell
2013-08-08 16:48                 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:52                   ` hasufell
2013-08-08 17:09                     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 17:57                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:53                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 17:41                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 17:57                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:08                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 18:23                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:47                           ` Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8) Tom Wijsman
     [not found]                             ` < CAOazyz2R+3TANLkeoXhP0LgLS+rOZwjPdCYVdC82DTG1nbri-w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-08 18:57                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 19:09                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 19:11                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  1:05                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? Zac Medico
2013-08-09  1:18                                   ` Dustin C. Hatch
2013-08-09  5:39                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  6:42                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-08-09  6:51                                       ` [gentoo-dev] [typo] Re: Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress Steven J. Long
2013-08-09  7:19                                         ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09  7:26                                           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 10:50                                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 18:42                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-08-11  1:53                                                 ` Rich Freeman
     [not found]                                             ` < CAGfcS_=zyeX8Whr8U4w4s3ouSbUoTm=hF95t3rd0q=wt60eZcQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                               ` < 20130810184211.GA1500@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
2013-08-11  2:04                                                 ` Duncan
2013-08-09  8:46                                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  8:58                                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  9:53                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 18:58                           ` [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 19:01                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:26                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 18:38                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 19:03                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 19:02                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 19:22                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  2:03                         ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09  7:36                           ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2013-08-09  9:30                             ` hasufell
2013-08-09 10:27                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09 11:31                                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09 11:26                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 11:39                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09 11:38                                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09 12:14                                         ` vivo75
2013-08-09 13:54                                           ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 16:38                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-10 19:57                                             ` vivo75
2013-08-09 16:17                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-09 20:43                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 11:45                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 13:57                                         ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 19:11                                           ` Ben de Groot
2013-08-09 19:15                                             ` Matt Turner
2013-08-09 19:17                                             ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 20:32                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 23:32                                               ` Mike Auty [this message]
2013-08-10  0:03                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 10:51                                         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 10:59                                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 11:12                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-10 11:38                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 11:37                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-08-09 11:58                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 10:50                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:40                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-08-09 12:28                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09 14:22                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 14:44                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 14:50                                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 14:51                                           ` Arun Raghavan
2013-08-09 14:57                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 15:02                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 15:25                                             ` hasufell
2013-08-09 16:12                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 15:12                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:04                                             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:42                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:51                                                 ` Michael Weber
2013-08-10 16:50                                                   ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09 16:43                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-09 14:59                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:03                                         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:52                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 17:45                                       ` William Hubbs
2013-08-10 10:55                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:12                                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 11:59                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 12:16                                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-08-09 13:44                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 12:36                                 ` hasufell
2013-08-09 13:13                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 19:34                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-08-10 19:49                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-23 13:27                                         ` Steven J. Long
2013-08-23 15:54                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 13:49                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 14:40                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 15:42                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 16:35                                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 17:06                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 10:42                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-09-11  9:41                             ` Olav Vitters
2013-09-11 11:15                               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 18:12                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  0:27                   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09  3:08                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09  9:16                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 14:57                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-09 15:47                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10  4:03                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-10  6:54                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 15:26             ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:05               ` Alex Xu
2013-08-08 16:09                 ` William Hubbs
     [not found]   ` < 5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org>
     [not found]     ` < CAMUzOag6DkLLn7OpBRhkHsRGFWOjvMv_WDrT+cm0S-bewT=JhQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-08  6:21       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-08-08  6:26         ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-08  7:05         ` KDE/semantic-desktop, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2013-08-08 14:59           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE/semantic-desktop Martin Vaeth
2013-08-08 17:44             ` Martin Vaeth
2013-08-08 17:52               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 18:15                 ` Chris Reffett
2013-08-08  9:45         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 hasufell
2013-08-08 11:23           ` Rich Freeman
     [not found]   ` < pan$a65ab$e0ddc4a9$415605ad$324469f5@cox.net>
     [not found]     ` <52033A27.2070103@sporkbox.us >
2013-08-08  8:27       ` Duncan
     [not found]   ` < 52033A27.2070103@sporkbox.us>
     [not found]     ` <pan$f2635$5ee40939$18f8a55$7afd54a5@cox.net >
2013-08-08  8:33       ` Duncan
2013-08-07 15:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08  6:19   ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-08 15:13     ` William Hubbs
2013-08-08  9:39 ` Ben de Groot
2013-08-08  9:49   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 10:38   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 20:40     ` Mike Auty
2013-08-08 21:06       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  0:17         ` Mike Auty
2013-08-09  0:26         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09  6:24           ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  9:26             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09  9:51               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09 10:22                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 10:35                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-11  5:41                 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-11  7:31                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-11  7:51                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-11 11:14                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-11  8:02                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-08 23:19       ` Greg KH
2013-08-09  0:26         ` Mike Auty
2013-08-09  9:35           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 22:46             ` Mike Auty
2013-08-10 22:42           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2013-08-10 23:10             ` Mike Auty
2013-08-10 23:45               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-11  1:15                 ` Mike Auty
2013-08-11  1:42                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-11  0:01               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-11 13:41         ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-11 14:03       ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-09  0:25 ` Michael Weber
2013-08-09  5:29   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  6:28     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  6:27   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-10 19:57 ` Roy Bamford

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