From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6381381F3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE170E0CE3; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E099AE0C6A for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.182.101.20] (85-76-106-192-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.106.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6922333E14B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5203735C.2090607@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 13:30:52 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130802 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> <1375881254.7753.41.camel@rook> <5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org> <520364E2.7030406@gentoo.org> <20130808120542.0db027dc@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20130808120542.0db027dc@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 85d2e816-d38a-41f8-86d7-d6f55a1afddd X-Archives-Hash: 886c927b8e46a174f709c47300290f89 On 08/08/13 13:05, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-08-08, o godz. 11:29:06 > hasufell napisał(a): > >> On 08/08/2013 01:49 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: >>> Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by >>> the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. >>> >>> It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm >>> properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By >>> stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others. >>> >>> I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest >>> to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our >>> support range ... >> >> +1 >> >> Stabilizing it is wrong. >> >> Leave it in ~arch forever, because it is incompatible with system >> packages. (virtual/service-manager) > > If it's going to stay in ~arch, we should also drop all stable GNOME > versions to ~arch. I don't really see keeping old and unsupported > software stable for that long. > +1, the old libraries gnome 2.x needs in stable is already causing trouble. to name the first one that comes to mind, the stable gnome-base/gvfs gnome 2.x needs fails with UDisks2. overall i'm not intrested in stabilization of gnome 3.x but getting rid of 'the blocker called gnome 2.x* - Samuli