From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55D41381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 910C8E0A8D; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE973E09CD for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.5] (ip98-164-195-43.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.195.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EAF7933E7E1 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51F17038.9020901@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 11:36:40 -0700 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: revbumping ebuilds after USE dependency changes References: <20130724124923.GB3010@ion.office.nerd.gr> <20130724153123.GA2892@ion.office.nerd.gr> <51EFF73E.5020604@gentoo.org> <20130724132315.19acde44@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <20130724211726.5df32731@gentoo.org> <20130724201854.320c0585@googlemail.com> <51F0770E.60800@gentoo.org> <51F0A072.6060806@gentoo.org> <51F1446C.2000002@gentoo.org> <51F16031.10802@gentoo.org> <51F16E7A.8060502@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51F16E7A.8060502@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d5f54e5f-b336-4b0d-a360-db82559176da X-Archives-Hash: 324f199c6c01a3db198a8b59c8986fa3 On 07/25/2013 11:29 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 07/25/2013 01:28 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 07/25/2013 08:29 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >>>>> Shall we revisit that, and try to make portage behave more correctly, >>>>> even if it means more revbumps / rebuilding? >>> >>>> Just set EMERGE_DEFAULT_DEPS="--dynamic-deps=n" in make.conf if you'd >>>> like to test it. >>> >>> >>> What (if anything) does that break or slow down? I've had all kinds of >>> recent issues with updates breaking my autobuilds due to these issues. > >> If you use --dynamic-deps=n then you are likely to experience more >> dependency conflicts (or unsatisfied deps) triggered by installed >> packages that have since had their dependencies changed without a >> revision bump. These dependency conflicts are like the ones that you've >> experienced with binary packages [1], but they will apply to installed >> packages instead of binary packgaes. > >> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282927 > > > So I replace one set of dependency errors with another? This doesn't > seem all that useful... > > Perhaps we need to reevaluate how we handle these things. The advantage of using --dynamic-deps=n is that it triggers dependencies conflicts that otherwise go unnoticed, prompting you to do a revision bump in order to trigger rebuilds for people who have already build/installed the older version that now has obsolete deps. -- Thanks, Zac