From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0A1381F3 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B1D0E0980; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37CBEE0949 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.5] (blfd-4db0ee0c.pool.mediaWays.net [77.176.238.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECBF133DAC9 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 22:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51EC5DBF.5060104@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 00:16:31 +0200 From: hasufell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130630 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove sci-geosciences/googleearth from the tree References: <51EBFCB0.308@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2053e765-4cef-42d1-bae4-48227b484abe X-Archives-Hash: f375e7bfad3b1323095d2abc48264689 On 07/22/2013 12:07 AM, Duncan wrote: > hasufell posted on Sun, 21 Jul 2013 17:22:24 +0200 as excerpted: > >> solution: Treeclean it and maintain it in an overlay (maybe >> science-overlay). That's exactly what overlays are for... experimental >> stuff. > > What's the pros/cons of overlay vs. in-tree-but-masked for something like > this? In-tree-but-masked is at least available for those who want it, > without having to load an overlay, but I don't see that discussed at all, > here. > pros: - consistency of tree quality - less user confusion (the checksum failures alone get us a lot of bugs every release without people realizing what it means...) and people expect packages to work in the tree - less bugs no one can do anything about - easier contribution of users in an overlay, testing of hacks or other stuff to make it work - making clear that gentoo does not support software with such low QA - making clear that this software is experimental cons: - users have to run "layman -a foo" ...I hope they will manage (and the masking reason will be updated to explain where to look for googleearth ebuilds)