From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500351381F3 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DCA9E0960; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61A8FE093A for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.7] (cpe-69-207-16-110.buffalo.res.rr.com [69.207.16.110]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: blueness) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 797F733E68C for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51D1CADB.4030503@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:30:51 -0400 From: "Anthony G. Basile" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130628 Thunderbird/17.0.7 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration. References: <20130701164149.131490f8@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7bd0235f-a10a-4ef0-bb4e-c46ab2e7d8c1 X-Archives-Hash: 0069cdd2b979f8a5bc3bf1c05a93c554 On 07/01/2013 11:20 AM, Jeff Horelick wrote: > On 1 July 2013 10:41, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> Hello >> >> >> Please reply to gentoo-dev in case ML daemon changes Reply-To. >> >> >> ### TL; DR ### >> >> By introducing feature patches which menu options are disabled by >> default to genpatches, we can deduplicate *-sources maintainers as well >> as large groups of users work. By introducing a distribution section >> in the menuconfig, we can provide options that enable minimal Gentoo >> requirements by default (DEVTMPFS, making Gentoo systems bootable since >> an udev release a long time ago) and other distribution stuff. > > I really like this idea. geek-sources has appealed to me massively the > past few months, but i didn't want to risk stability and go with a > kernel from a unofficial overlay. I can not wait to see this in > gentoo-sources and I fully support this idea. > Tom, you already know my opinion because we discussed it. I'm all for it. Just a reminder: there's always problems somewhere in the kernel which can be triggered by various options. The kernel is not one big take it or leave it chunk of code, but many chunks selectable by Kconfig with the exception of course of the core. The best we can do wrt to BFQ and other "risky" patches is mark these options as EXPERIMENTAL. I was going to say depend on CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL in Kconfig, but this is deprecated. See scripts/checkpatch.pl "Use of CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is deprecated. For alternatives, see https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/23/580" --Tony -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail : blueness@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA