From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE051381F3 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE980E0A5E; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [74.208.4.200]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8454E08E1 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.144] ([70.40.227.122]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M4Gij-1U0b4M1h8l-00rob8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:00:49 +0200 Message-ID: <51CA91A0.5090108@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:00:48 -0500 From: Daniel Campbell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130601 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:x/EXtBD5YgrWgU/IpndhsjTp3oc4INPCtaS2F3u+J9HwkNO9wAH f/eBoqG33BlP8VmCXDZmUWciG0ZK97wOjcgoyJkUZGLrTErLOfNE3bz33dlPh5zI9MytOib 3kjmLOsjAEyDDmcFubu6/O5WkeW1n86Q2mtBy9IB2qzGhNhKhH6zoAuQ2yhTMP6o9MO6bcr CdOcEMpmIHBFKKvGu8jrA== X-Archives-Salt: 0b1059e8-1c67-42fa-9f0b-f1915227ded7 X-Archives-Hash: 7fc219a488ed61086e71fe62dee26b2f On 06/24/2013 05:54 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: >> That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will >> be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers >> independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams introduce >> themselves and discuss about different issues in their Gentoo-related >> projects. > > Thanks for taking the time and initiative to work on something new, I am > sure it will prove interesting. > > It is the response that confuses me - I don't understand why everyone is > rushing to shut it down before it even begins. For those that are not > interested in the idea of a video hangout, just don't use it and move on > - simple. > I'm a user (and would-be dev) and don't like the idea of relying on anything related to Google or another outside entity for devs and/or users to communicate. The software is also non-free and closed source. It's true that people can "just move on", but that strikes me as an attempt to ward off criticism and not work at solving the perceived problem: "how do we get richer communication between Gentoo devs/users?" Mumble exists for voice chat... certainly there's a FOSS video chat option somewhere? Diego's points wrt time management and multitasking are also salient.