From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792401381F3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCF8DE0B35; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spot.xmw.de (spot.xmw.de [176.9.87.236]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01B3E0B2B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:6f8:1cd1:0:21d:72ff:fe88:9ac1] (x.l.xmw.de [IPv6:2001:6f8:1cd1:0:21d:72ff:fe88:9ac1]) by spot.xmw.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3942614123548 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:31:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51C4B80C.1020605@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:31:08 +0200 From: Michael Weber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130610 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Soliciting input for a non-maintainer update (NMU) GLEP References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fc450742-9bb9-498d-a72b-eb638143322d X-Archives-Hash: 1c75ec3f4b25fb9e73788c52fcc97c85 On 06/21/2013 08:50 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: [NMU] Abstract: Be verbose about your preferences. == TL;DR == I'm missing this kind of information since the beginning. After 2 (?) years, i've learned some policies, like herd:desktop-* is free for all, don't touch herd:base-system and so on. But I did not keep records of every fella granting me full access. As a maintainer and slacker (as flameeyes pointed out), I singularily maintain my share of packages [1] with a rich variety of affection. Less/singular affection (like the miredo/sbin/ip mishap, a package i proxied for a friend), I work on rand maintainer-needed@g.o packages, don't take maint and try to watch bugzie for follow ups. -> just go ahead and do what you think is right Total, regular affection, (cwm, ncdc, ncdu, mupdf (+derivates), llpp, netsurf, jumanji) and basically my inital commits. -> give me at least two days to review changes. Either way, go ahead, BUT I __really__ like being informed about an NMU carried out, nothing sucks more than doing the update and see repoman+cvs reject the update (yeah, work on an fresh checkout blah blah). As an impatient person with an urge to fix things, I often commit on random stuff, after asking or timeout. I'd like to propose three positions to post information about NMU-policy, preferred way of communication, affection to bulk-mail|reports|...|euscan update|KEQWORDREQ - Every dev as person, like an devaway. - Every herd, somwhere in herds.xml - Every Package-category (for project-categories like vim/kde/gnome/) (it'd be usefull to fetch and provide this info as equery meta output). (Yes, I've broken and will break things, my sincerest apologies, I really try hard. Thanks for ssuominen being a encouraging example.) At some point I'm really scared about reactions in the past and avoid certain areas, persons and really basic|widespread stuff like zsh (bug 19924, [2]). my 2 cents. [1] http://euscan.iksaif.net/maintainers/48/ [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19924 -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/ mailto: Michael Weber