From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2725E1381F3 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0118E0888; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spike.necoro.eu (spike.necoro.eu [95.129.55.237]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCF26E0830 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.248.86] (fish.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.22.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by spike.necoro.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 07AA6216077 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:29:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51B982E6.3060905@necoro.eu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:29:26 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UmVuw6kgTmV1bWFubg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130522 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Over-reliance of Gentoo projects on overlays References: <20130612185126.15f142b0@gentoo.org> <51B8A904.6060406@gentoo.org> <20130612180255.59f313b3@googlemail.com> <51B8AA59.8010603@gentoo.org> <20130612181312.774d0bd1@googlemail.com> <51B8AE78.5030702@orlitzky.com> <20130613074452.499bde8b@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20130613074452.499bde8b@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 0ca333c2-8499-4b0c-8c0f-80659c3bdb8d X-Archives-Hash: 3bce61d1ec2bf7431743b4283f00b468 Am 13.06.2013 07:44, schrieb Michał Górny: > Dnia 2013-06-12, o godz. 13:23:04 > Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > >> We need worse support for overlays, i.e. no. Having to use >3 overlays >> defeats the purpose of a QA'd tree. Everything in an (official) >> overlay should be in package.mask instead. The main reason it isn't is >> because nobody wants to use CVS. For good examples, see sunrise or >> gentoo-haskell. > > Sunrise is not that good example. I liked to use it as an example but > over time you start to see how degenerated it becomes. It seems that > the bond between people is pretty poor there, and many of the packages > lack proper maintenance. > > Some of them simply don't build at all and wait for a random Sunrise > user to fix them. Then they lay unmaintained once again, and the story > repeats. Then the policies in sunrise need to be more strict: If it is mentioned in the bug, that the version in sunrise does not build anymore, it should be dropped from sunrise if there is no fix in some timeframe [1]. Of course this puts more workload on the sunrise-team as they have to monitor the bugs and respond accordingly. - René [1] Dunno, perhaps two weeks if noone responds "will fix it", four weeks else.