From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0C71381F3 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20D95E08DC; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E924E080A for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [91.220.220.251] (pinkbyte.micronet-rostov.ru [91.220.220.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pinkbyte) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC9C333E246 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51B700AC.8000408@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:49:16 +0400 From: Sergey Popov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130524 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org References: <51B48FA1.9080403@gentoo.org> <51B5C85B.3050500@gentoo.org> <51B5ED79.6060007@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51B5ED79.6060007@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2JFTVJHKLQHVFLKFOTCCQ" X-Archives-Salt: 6b84c207-712c-4fec-b09c-f04bf07df99e X-Archives-Hash: 197c28eaff43a891da82c2abb6589758 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2JFTVJHKLQHVFLKFOTCCQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 10.06.2013 19:15, Alex Legler =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > On 10.06.2013 14:36, Sergey Popov wrote: >> 09.06.2013 18:22, Alex Legler =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >>> I'd appreciate some input on below plan to move project pages to the = Wiki: >>> >>> Motivation >>> ---------- >>> >>> The main motivation is to reduce the contents on the main website, >>> allowing for an easier makeover. Also, the Wiki exposes the contents = and >>> an editing capability to more people, allowing for better collaborati= on. >>> Finally, this is an opportunity for projects to go through the conten= ts >>> in their project spaces and update/remove outdated contents as well >>> Gentoo as a whole to remove orphaned projects. >> >> Err, i do not want to say that wiki is not suite for this purpose, but= >> what's wrong with current situation? Is there something wrong with gor= g? >=20 > The software is unmaintained, and the website template is next to > unmaintainable. I could go on a bit more about this, but I think these > two points *alone* justify moving away from it. >=20 >> Well, it is not always clear how to use some of it's features, but apa= rt >> of that, why we should migrate to wiki? >> >> Just to clear orphaned project pages? >=20 > No, I described multiple points. Again: > - Less contents on www.g.o -> we can much more easily relaunch it > - Users can more easily contribute to project documentation > - Update/purge project documentation > - Remove orphaned projects >=20 I did not know that gorg is not maintained. So yeah, in that case, i understand your decision. >> >> Why we can not just have official project pages, maintained as usual >> through gorg and additional info in wiki(if it is needed, for example,= >> like we do on Gentoo Qt project page? >> >=20 > In case it wasn't clear enough yet: This is step 1 of n to get rid of > gorg and GuideXML for the website (read: not main docs) aspects of Gent= oo. > Running two project page venues increases maintenance instead of > lowering it. I intend to have less work after this change, not more. >=20 > Do you have any concerns beyond 'never change a running system'? >=20 For now - no, i am not. Thanks for clearing things for me. --=20 Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead ------enig2JFTVJHKLQHVFLKFOTCCQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRtwCsAAoJECo/aRed9267XC8H/RLhCrx9o7zet28oJRZqA25v rO154cspkv61bonvokJUnuRNfV81anjTFhM7fDpJAoT7IieRaz00DhJIfsgGPd/b pcShEMdIUnwfy4dnY86GX0BINBDabcDDGhN2KpbJJvoIDCJceJS1RkgWqyZx2NNn hC8F5NXU7uZJJc95LSYpJ1vR2O5zO4CzIqITiFgh+je7P867cY0nTnZMHusH3QGv g0JTG0pGrgbRs8knEdC1WM58b09q4RF+55rm1X/4ljlv3GdUpz+H2OaAsQTZomYa E4IoTXxEz7j8m2dxdDpGPbAGz1nIoSbBasde1OMvfals5uNk86/Jhg22mGMzCqw= =1a0v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2JFTVJHKLQHVFLKFOTCCQ--