From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B511381F3 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BE08E0957; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.a3li.li (sawfish.a3li.li [89.238.78.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36EAEE0801 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDA9222544 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:14:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at a3li.li Received: from mail.a3li.li ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (stingray.a3li.info [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tc1XxcJGSFiM for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:14:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:6f8:12e4:0:6267:20ff:fe71:fb00] (unknown [IPv6:2001:6f8:12e4:0:6267:20ff:fe71:fb00]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.a3li.li (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F065A222554 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51B5ED79.6060007@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:15:05 +0200 From: Alex Legler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130418 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org References: <51B48FA1.9080403@gentoo.org> <51B5C85B.3050500@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <51B5C85B.3050500@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2MDWCCKJSBWOPTFKSJWNV" X-Archives-Salt: 6eee1d9b-940f-4b65-bee5-f683d5963852 X-Archives-Hash: c65a6bbebb57a95dcda0945cf3fa5160 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2MDWCCKJSBWOPTFKSJWNV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10.06.2013 14:36, Sergey Popov wrote: > 09.06.2013 18:22, Alex Legler =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: >> I'd appreciate some input on below plan to move project pages to the W= iki: >> >> Motivation >> ---------- >> >> The main motivation is to reduce the contents on the main website, >> allowing for an easier makeover. Also, the Wiki exposes the contents a= nd >> an editing capability to more people, allowing for better collaboratio= n. >> Finally, this is an opportunity for projects to go through the content= s >> in their project spaces and update/remove outdated contents as well >> Gentoo as a whole to remove orphaned projects. >=20 > Err, i do not want to say that wiki is not suite for this purpose, but > what's wrong with current situation? Is there something wrong with gorg= ? The software is unmaintained, and the website template is next to unmaintainable. I could go on a bit more about this, but I think these two points *alone* justify moving away from it. > Well, it is not always clear how to use some of it's features, but apar= t > of that, why we should migrate to wiki? >=20 > Just to clear orphaned project pages? No, I described multiple points. Again: - Less contents on www.g.o -> we can much more easily relaunch it - Users can more easily contribute to project documentation - Update/purge project documentation - Remove orphaned projects >=20 > Why we can not just have official project pages, maintained as usual > through gorg and additional info in wiki(if it is needed, for example, > like we do on Gentoo Qt project page? >=20 In case it wasn't clear enough yet: This is step 1 of n to get rid of gorg and GuideXML for the website (read: not main docs) aspects of Gentoo= =2E Running two project page venues increases maintenance instead of lowering it. I intend to have less work after this change, not more. Do you have any concerns beyond 'never change a running system'? --=20 Alex Legler Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure ------enig2MDWCCKJSBWOPTFKSJWNV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRte15AAoJEDa6ZWES7jAACGkP/RnQVG0ycCzC1bw+OSo80sYZ NnjCt67nc4lba2d/SIT3ebUdk+/NhbBMK/LGh1zwcBE/v0cZ86roAHVXcWxB01hO MCY7kkRf9AoQxZAEySSauZppG0awAfD5bKCliJatcam6C1OkrcOkNZdTWn4+gzEy QKPtj4+FGJYsdyVUU7KBh1Df8gLZbvzXZTG/y41kPO12M/14gXSLFBFZ+7zUt09T KOSQoD+olJ95wNY2F5sL2Rl/ZeKHO6cWRCGYl5iqQMSKqchXD6bAkk5kpoKpNxZy eqLVyvQ6TKHz2RG8Y2iv5GCWgrwfx+yVzAibbq7D9zqSyHyl5w3OL4uSTksyDnza WBMPj9bKa//OC5gs7emmQQOSjPPAxbauVcqAL6qfboBiGpBs99fRCXPpimERngul Kj4HtD4GhrwS/jmPNDv7q8tK1EkfFGsWU+Sv04J60ywv93W51bVczXa9qbLAyQf/ ZsVj8wFCT3MmiXP/9TGx8zLdX9BTTAnfXoEeJoCZWtFRJTjii+MkVh9nePkQxJ3c XCv8gtLPfhBa8NmUIP4a7iO+X6C5Rda/wt8m2TMrnBa6oW4WalmahgxjMK6Mt+zX sCPzkGCANnFzmw8ZAOw4OC9ei0xd62uMK/hh4YoMfmUJGWkEuB/CulXyxbepIm3K HRa2iR5i+lY7XWHQRfSi =7NmC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2MDWCCKJSBWOPTFKSJWNV--