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From: Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:15:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B5ED79.6060007@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B5C85B.3050500@gentoo.org>

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On 10.06.2013 14:36, Sergey Popov wrote:
> 09.06.2013 18:22, Alex Legler пишет:
>> I'd appreciate some input on below plan to move project pages to the Wiki:
>>
>> Motivation
>> ----------
>>
>> The main motivation is to reduce the contents on the main website,
>> allowing for an easier makeover. Also, the Wiki exposes the contents and
>> an editing capability to more people, allowing for better collaboration.
>> Finally, this is an opportunity for projects to go through the contents
>> in their project spaces and update/remove outdated contents as well
>> Gentoo as a whole to remove orphaned projects.
> 
> Err, i do not want to say that wiki is not suite for this purpose, but
> what's wrong with current situation? Is there something wrong with gorg?

The software is unmaintained, and the website template is next to
unmaintainable. I could go on a bit more about this, but I think these
two points *alone* justify moving away from it.

> Well, it is not always clear how to use some of it's features, but apart
> of that, why we should migrate to wiki?
> 
> Just to clear orphaned project pages?

No, I described multiple points. Again:
 - Less contents on www.g.o -> we can much more easily relaunch it
 - Users can more easily contribute to project documentation
 - Update/purge project documentation
 - Remove orphaned projects

> 
> Why we can not just have official project pages, maintained as usual
> through gorg and additional info in wiki(if it is needed, for example,
> like we do on Gentoo Qt project page?
> 

In case it wasn't clear enough yet: This is step 1 of n to get rid of
gorg and GuideXML for the website (read: not main docs) aspects of Gentoo.
Running two project page venues increases maintenance instead of
lowering it. I intend to have less work after this change, not more.

Do you have any concerns beyond 'never change a running system'?

-- 
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 14:22 [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org Alex Legler
2013-06-09 15:44 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-06-09 16:01   ` Alex Legler
2013-06-09 15:57 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-09 16:03   ` Alex Legler
2013-06-10  6:48 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-06-10 12:36 ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-10 13:29   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-06-10 14:31   ` Michał Górny
2013-06-10 15:15   ` Alex Legler [this message]
2013-06-10 15:47     ` Hans de Graaff
2013-06-10 20:38     ` Ultrabug
2013-06-11 10:49     ` Sergey Popov
2013-06-10 23:06 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2013-06-11 10:20   ` Sven Vermeulen
2013-06-11 11:05     ` Theo Chatzimichos
2013-06-11 12:15       ` Alex Legler
2013-06-13 16:33         ` Sven Vermeulen
2013-06-16  0:28           ` [gentoo-dev] [1/3] Automatic *XML->Wiki wiki.gentoo.org Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-26 13:54             ` Alex Legler
2013-07-08 20:02               ` Sven Vermeulen
2013-07-09 15:46                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
     [not found]                 ` <51DB41CA.8090707@yahoo.ca>
2013-07-09 23:53                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Alex Xu
2013-07-10  0:29                     ` Alex Legler
2013-07-10  0:45                       ` Alex Xu
2013-07-10  6:58                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-10  9:10                           ` Michael Weber
2013-07-10  9:26                             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-07-10  8:23                       ` Sven Vermeulen
2013-06-16  1:21 ` [gentoo-dev] [2&3]/3 API & files Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-16 12:08   ` Alex Legler
2013-06-16 19:44     ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-16 22:12       ` Alex Legler
2013-06-16 22:56       ` Alex Xu
2013-06-18 18:06     ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-22  9:20   ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-22 10:14     ` Alex Legler
2013-06-16  4:01 ` [gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving project pages to wiki.gentoo.org "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-06-16  9:01   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-06-16 10:53   ` Alex Legler
2013-06-16 19:40     ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-06-16 20:12   ` Kent Fredric
2013-06-16 20:36     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-06-16 23:17       ` Alex Xu

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