From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84891381F3 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEBA2E0A87; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBFC0E0A76 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [141.23.119.31] (wlan-141-23-119-31.tubit.tu-berlin.de [141.23.119.31]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70E1333E4A2 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51B1D353.9040002@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 14:34:27 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users References: <20130508190832.0ea16c88@gentoo.org> <518A8901.6030302@gmail.com> <20130510094500.62b0c958@sera-20.lan> <5191F8B7.9080006@gentoo.org> <20130515141755.4d53f21e@gentoo.org> <20130607115223.GB4146@bkor.dhs.org> <51B1CC56.50306@gentoo.org> <20130607122440.GC4146@bkor.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <20130607122440.GC4146@bkor.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 73e0e228-bc59-4c3e-aad0-abc7b702a345 X-Archives-Hash: 39ea082d9182d22943910dfe043939b2 Olav Vitters schrieb: >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464944 > That bugreport is regarding an optional dependency for the power > handling. It is correct that Ubuntu will switch from ConsoleKit to > logind, so it does make sense to either maintain ConsoleKit or use > logind. But it still is an optional dependency. You are correct that it is not a hard dependency in a strict sense. However, suspend support and session management are not obscure seldom-used functions. So logind becomes a hard requirement for enough users which justifies calling it that way. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn