From: Daniel Campbell <dlcampbell@gmx.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 03:02:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <519DCD16.9050508@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130523084139.768a713c@gentoo.org>
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On 05/23/2013 01:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:39:25 -0500 Daniel Campbell
> <dlcampbell@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious as to why you consider users who want to save disk
>> space (openrc or systemd, or other packages, it doesn't matter)
>> as fundamentalists.
>
> I'd call them using other words but I didn't want to be that
> inpolite. Seriously, there are bigger problems in the world than a
> few text files. And much bigger useless space consumers which you
> don't even notice because they don't have the 'systemd' name on
> them.
>
> If you care about disk space, then find the biggest consumers and
> try to work on them. Otherwise, you're just picking. And that's
> close to fundamentalism.
>
I can't speak for others who wish to rid their systems of systemd, but
personally I look for any excessive use of space on my HDD, despite it
being rather large. Since you brought it up, which packages can you
think of that most or all Gentoo boxes will have that take up more
considerable amounts of files or disk space? I'm honestly interested
in *anything* that lowers the disk usage of my OSes; to a point,
anyway. Supporting X or Y codec or feature in the kernel would be more
important than saving 50kB in the kernel binary, for instance.
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2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02 2:49 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32 ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02 2:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02 2:41 ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 3:18 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 4:26 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 5:42 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 19:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05 7:07 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05 7:11 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09 1:48 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 2:01 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09 9:56 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01 ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09 2:18 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 3:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10 4:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10 7:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14 8:41 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-16 2:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16 0:27 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:28 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 6:58 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 16:59 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56 ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 0:50 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16 5:20 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07 ` waltdnes
2013-05-16 1:20 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:31 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17 0:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18 3:45 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18 9:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 3:03 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21 3:34 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23 6:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23 6:41 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23 8:02 ` Daniel Campbell [this message]
2013-05-23 9:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21 4:45 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 3:06 ` Duncan
2013-05-22 8:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-23 5:30 ` Duncan
2013-05-23 6:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 7:12 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 7:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21 7:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42 ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24 6:32 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24 6:48 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09 ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24 6:26 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 3:36 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25 ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16 2:30 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57 ` Olav Vitters
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