From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:03:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <519CC22F.7010601@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519CA8FC.5070308@gmail.com>
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On 22/05/13 07:16 AM, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
> On 05/22/13 13:06, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>> On 22/05/2013 20:41, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>>> Michael Palimaka schrieb:
>>>> On 22/05/2013 20:07, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On 05/22/13 11:43, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/05/2013 19:22, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/21/13 23:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 15:38:44 schrieb Thomas
>>>>>>>> Sachau:
>>>>>>>>> And if a maintainer is not responding within 30
>>>>>>>>> days, you can ping him or, without a response, try
>>>>>>>>> to get a different maintainer. Just assuming that a
>>>>>>>>> stable request is ok without a maintainer response
>>>>>>>>> is really not a good idea.
>>>>>>>> If none of the listed maintainers responds to a bug
>>>>>>>> in 30 days in any way, the package is effectively
>>>>>>>> unmaintained.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And thus its risky to mark it stable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why we have arch teams in the first place, to test
>>>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The risky part is about the after, not the before, to avoid
>>>>> the risks arch teams should keep the package working
>>>>> *after* it has stabilized. Seem to be a good case for those
>>>>> things that need to be evaluated case by case and could not
>>>>> be written in stone.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I am confused as to what you are proposing. Do you want arch
>>>> teams to continually test packages that are already in stable
>>>> to make sure they haven't broken somehow?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The point is probably, that when you stable a package with
>>> inactive maintainer, there will be noone following the opened
>>> bugs against this new version.
>>>
>>> So this looks like a case, where one should ask for a new
>>> maintainer, who then decides about the stable versions instead
>>> of doing auto-stabilization.
>>>
>> If the maintainer is inactive, presumably nobody is looking at
>> bugs for the old version either.
>>
>>
> And the circle is closed since we started with the correlation "no
> answer to stable bug in 30 days" => "package unmantained" ;-)
>
This could actually work ....
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2013-05-19 13:40 ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-19 14:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-05-19 15:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-05-19 15:58 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-19 20:22 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-20 0:00 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-20 12:10 ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2013-05-20 16:58 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-07-27 19:29 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-07-27 20:16 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-21 12:21 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 12:35 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-21 13:32 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-22 14:44 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-21 13:20 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-21 13:38 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 18:32 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-21 19:51 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-21 20:17 ` Alexis Ballier
2013-05-21 20:46 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-21 21:37 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-21 22:25 ` Alexis Ballier
2013-05-22 0:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2013-05-21 23:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 21:38 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-22 9:22 ` vivo75
2013-05-22 9:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 10:07 ` vivo75
2013-05-22 10:12 ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 10:41 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-22 11:06 ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 11:16 ` vivo75
2013-05-22 13:03 ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2013-05-22 14:51 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:08 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 13:02 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 13:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2013-05-21 21:22 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-21 23:43 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 23:51 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-22 3:46 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-22 13:11 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 23:03 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-23 12:57 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 18:11 ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 18:40 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-23 18:49 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 19:29 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24 13:04 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 20:14 ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-24 13:03 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 12:53 ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 12:55 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 15:00 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:14 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 15:22 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-20 15:29 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-20 17:15 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-20 18:21 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-21 0:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-22 15:21 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-23 6:22 ` Duncan
2013-05-20 18:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2013-05-20 18:29 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-29 9:21 ` Michael Weber
2013-05-22 15:03 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:27 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 0:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2013-05-22 8:58 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 9:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-22 11:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 11:07 ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 12:02 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-24 5:20 ` Ryan Hill
2013-05-24 5:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 9:18 ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 14:56 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:45 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-24 5:40 ` Ryan Hill
2013-05-24 5:58 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-27 10:54 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:36 ` Jeroen Roovers
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