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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: robo-stable bugs
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:03:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <519CC22F.7010601@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519CA8FC.5070308@gmail.com>

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On 22/05/13 07:16 AM, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
> On 05/22/13 13:06, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>> On 22/05/2013 20:41, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>>> Michael Palimaka schrieb:
>>>> On 22/05/2013 20:07, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On 05/22/13 11:43, Michael Palimaka wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/05/2013 19:22, vivo75@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/21/13 23:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 15:38:44 schrieb Thomas
>>>>>>>> Sachau:
>>>>>>>>> And if a maintainer is not responding within 30
>>>>>>>>> days, you can ping him or, without a response, try
>>>>>>>>> to get a different maintainer. Just assuming that a
>>>>>>>>> stable request is ok without a maintainer response
>>>>>>>>> is really not a good idea.
>>>>>>>> If none of the listed maintainers responds to a bug
>>>>>>>> in 30 days in any way, the package is effectively
>>>>>>>> unmaintained.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And thus its risky to mark it stable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's why we have arch teams in the first place, to test
>>>>>> beforehand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The risky part is about the after, not the before, to avoid
>>>>> the risks arch teams should keep the package working
>>>>> *after* it has stabilized. Seem to be a good case for those
>>>>> things that need to be evaluated case by case and could not
>>>>> be written in stone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> I am confused as to what you are proposing. Do you want arch
>>>> teams to continually test packages that are already in stable
>>>> to make sure they haven't broken somehow?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> The point is probably, that when you stable a package with
>>> inactive maintainer, there will be noone following the opened
>>> bugs against this new version.
>>> 
>>> So this looks like a case, where one should ask for a new
>>> maintainer, who then decides about the stable versions instead
>>> of doing auto-stabilization.
>>> 
>> If the maintainer is inactive, presumably nobody is looking at
>> bugs for the old version either.
>> 
>> 
> And the circle is closed since we started with the correlation "no 
> answer to stable bug in 30 days" => "package unmantained" ;-)
> 

This could actually work ....


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-470392-23709@http.bugs.gentoo.org/>
2013-05-19 13:40 ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-19 14:35   ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-05-19 15:51   ` [gentoo-dev] " Dirkjan Ochtman
2013-05-19 15:58   ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-19 20:22   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-20  0:00   ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-20 12:10     ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2013-05-20 16:58       ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-07-27 19:29         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-07-27 20:16           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-21 12:21     ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 12:35       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-21 13:32         ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-22 14:44           ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-21 13:20       ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-21 13:38         ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 18:32           ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-21 19:51             ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-21 20:17               ` Alexis Ballier
2013-05-21 20:46                 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-21 21:37                   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-21 22:25                   ` Alexis Ballier
2013-05-22  0:50                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2013-05-21 23:28             ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 21:38           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-22  9:22             ` vivo75
2013-05-22  9:43               ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 10:07                 ` vivo75
2013-05-22 10:12                   ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 10:41                     ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-22 11:06                       ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 11:16                         ` vivo75
2013-05-22 13:03                           ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2013-05-22 14:51                             ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:08                               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 13:02                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 13:21               ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2013-05-21 21:22         ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-21 23:43           ` Thomas Sachau
2013-05-21 23:51             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-22  3:46             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-22 13:11               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 23:03                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-05-23 12:57                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 18:11                     ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs, the flipside Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 18:40                       ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-23 18:49                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 19:29                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24 13:04                             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-23 20:14                           ` Markos Chandras
2013-05-24 13:03                             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 12:53             ` [gentoo-dev] robo-stable bugs Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-22 12:55               ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 15:00               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:14                 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 15:22                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-20 15:29   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-20 17:15     ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-20 18:21       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-21  0:46       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-22 15:21         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-23  6:22           ` Duncan
2013-05-20 18:00     ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2013-05-20 18:29       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-29  9:21         ` Michael Weber
2013-05-22 15:03     ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:27       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  0:57   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2013-05-22  8:58     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  9:07       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-22 11:00         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 11:07           ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 12:02             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-24  5:20           ` Ryan Hill
2013-05-24  5:26             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  9:18       ` Michael Palimaka
2013-05-22 14:56         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:45         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-24  5:40       ` Ryan Hill
2013-05-24  5:58         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-27 10:54         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-22 15:36     ` Jeroen Roovers

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