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From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 17:10:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5193A54B.9050703@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5193A3B1.2080209@gentoo.org>

On 05/15/2013 05:03 PM, Luca Barbato wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 03:41 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>> Are we realizing that in order to keep systemd out of our way, we're
>> currently writing and maintaining drop-in replacements for the
>> features that systemd is already providing in an actively maintained
>> state? openrc-settingsd was the first thing that we as Gentoo
>> developers (Pacho?) had to write in order to merge GNOME 3.6 into our
>> tree.

To make it even clearer.

In order to support a good amount of users out there that do not care
about gnome and cannot use systemd we can see and bake alternatives that
are compatible enough.

Those that can't use systemd:

- those not using the latest glibc (and maybe uclibc)
- those not using a recent linux kernel
- not sure about cgroups-users, the lxc vs systemd problem should be
  solved I hope

That's what I'm aware of.

lu


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-15 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02  2:49       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32         ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02  2:11       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02  2:41         ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02  3:18     ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02  4:26       ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02  5:42         ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13           ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01             ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 19:30               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39               ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27               ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55                 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05  7:07       ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05  7:11     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53       ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09  1:48       ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  2:01         ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09  9:56           ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14         ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21       ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01         ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09  2:18           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09  3:07             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00             ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07         ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18     ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32       ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10  4:50         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10  7:45         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55             ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14  8:41           ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17             ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41               ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-16  2:39                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16  0:27                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:28                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  6:58                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10                   ` Luca Barbato [this message]
2013-05-15 16:59                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05                             ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56                     ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56                         ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16  0:50                       ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16  5:20                     ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18                 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07                     ` waltdnes
2013-05-16  1:20                   ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16  1:31                     ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17  0:58                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18  3:45                         ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18  9:41                           ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02                           ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38                             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23                                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23                                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34                                         ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21  3:03                                             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21  3:34                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17                                                 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39                                                 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23  6:06                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23  6:41                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23  8:02                                                     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-23  9:46                                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19                                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21  4:45                                               ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57                                                   ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35                                                       ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37                                                   ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52                                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22  3:06                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-22  8:46                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19                                                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-23  5:30                                                       ` Duncan
2013-05-23  6:57                                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23  7:12                                                           ` Duncan
2013-05-21  7:03                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21  7:10                                                 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21                                                 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32                                                   ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42                                                   ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17                                                     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38                                                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24  6:32                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24  6:48                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09                                               ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22                                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24  6:26                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19  3:36                             ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25                           ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16  2:30                 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52                 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24                     ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57                         ` Olav Vitters

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