From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD817138200 for ; Sun, 5 May 2013 07:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B155AE0938; Sun, 5 May 2013 07:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEE95E0929 for ; Sun, 5 May 2013 07:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.93] (dynamic-adsl-84-220-76-147.clienti.tiscali.it [84.220.76.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DB1933DF46 for ; Sun, 5 May 2013 07:11:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51860620.3080708@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 09:11:28 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130411 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users References: <5184E632.9000801@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 256816de-fa63-41fe-9b74-363b30c09a9c X-Archives-Hash: 7cb0b861945a7af42ac1889a85b65cd1 On 05/04/2013 03:05 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > Long story short, we should: > 1) give up with cross compiler support in genkernel, which has been > anyway in a broken state for ages. Nobody is using it anyway. > 2) make possible to optionally use udev in the initramfs (compiling > just for it is a pita and the trend here [dracut and others do this] > is to copy udevd from the system) > 3) default to udev? Uhm... sounds quite unpleasant and I'm really wondering why having udev as middle-man for storing userspace metadata. The netlink broadcast should be available to everybody for acting upon, using/extending it for such tasks isn't possible? lu