From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E3B1381F3 for ; Thu, 2 May 2013 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB347E0A8E; Thu, 2 May 2013 19:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6F32E0A5F for ; Thu, 2 May 2013 19:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (g230104023.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.230.104.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65B2C33DF39 for ; Thu, 2 May 2013 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5182BB69.6050700@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 21:15:53 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users References: <51817269.40707@gentoo.org> <20130502031819.GB20292@linux1> <20130502180519.GA25143@linux1> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 3d03d4a6-ff56-410a-a37c-6b00d50b9d90 X-Archives-Hash: 877fb6b9ed447970ed1b55d234e4dfcf Fabio Erculiani schrieb: > Not all the Gentoo users are as skilled as you (a developer). Having a > programmatic, bootloader agnostic way to swap /sbin/init is useful for > the reasons I explained. Yet I haven't read any solid reason not to do > that. Another bootloader agnostic way is to pass init=.. via CONFIG_CMDLINE. Not carrying more deviations from upstream than necessary is a worthwhile goal for any sane distro. Especially when it has not even been attempted to get this change merged upstream. >> Either way, it's pretty simple. > > If it's that simple, why on earth do we have all the eselect modules we have!? [...] > Why aren't we telling people to just edit config files!? I don't see your point? Besides eselect modules which manage symlinks when users could instead edit configuration files, there exist eselect modules which modify config files for the user, or those where symlinks are managed without an equivalent editing of configuration files, or where symlinks are managed in an upstream approved way. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn