From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 21:15:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5182BB69.6050700@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN3Atvqb-NyVyH0Jz4mZGqJjDfCA57+9iSV3HJjj7yuYjtmRag@mail.gmail.com>
Fabio Erculiani schrieb:
> Not all the Gentoo users are as skilled as you (a developer). Having a
> programmatic, bootloader agnostic way to swap /sbin/init is useful for
> the reasons I explained. Yet I haven't read any solid reason not to do
> that.
Another bootloader agnostic way is to pass init=.. via CONFIG_CMDLINE. Not
carrying more deviations from upstream than necessary is a worthwhile goal
for any sane distro. Especially when it has not even been attempted to get
this change merged upstream.
>> Either way, it's pretty simple.
>
> If it's that simple, why on earth do we have all the eselect modules we have!?
[...]
> Why aren't we telling people to just edit config files!?
I don't see your point? Besides eselect modules which manage symlinks when
users could instead edit configuration files, there exist eselect modules
which modify config files for the user, or those where symlinks are managed
without an equivalent editing of configuration files, or where symlinks are
managed in an upstream approved way.
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
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2013-05-01 10:04 [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 10:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-01 11:00 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 13:13 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-02 2:49 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-01 13:36 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 13:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 14:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 18:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-01 21:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2013-05-01 22:32 ` Matt Turner
2013-05-02 2:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-02 2:41 ` Alex Xu
2013-05-01 14:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthew Thode
2013-05-01 14:22 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-01 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-01 19:52 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-05-01 20:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-01 21:14 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 3:18 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 4:26 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 5:42 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 18:05 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 18:13 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 19:01 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-02 19:15 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn [this message]
2013-05-02 19:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-02 19:39 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-02 20:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 20:27 ` Kent Fredric
2013-05-02 22:55 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-02 23:07 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-02 22:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 10:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 12:54 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-05 11:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-04 13:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-04 13:12 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-05 7:07 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-04 16:12 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-05 7:11 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-07 20:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 15:53 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:34 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 16:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-08 17:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 18:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-09 1:48 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 2:01 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-05-09 9:56 ` Anthony G. Basile
2013-05-09 16:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-09 16:53 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-09 17:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-08 15:39 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 15:49 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-08 16:06 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:14 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-08 16:58 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-05-08 16:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-08 17:01 ` Arun Raghavan
2013-05-09 2:18 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-09 3:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-09 11:00 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:07 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 18:24 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-08 15:52 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 16:59 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-08 17:08 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:18 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-08 17:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-08 17:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-10 4:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-10 7:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-10 10:09 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-11 16:55 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2013-05-11 21:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-14 8:41 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 12:17 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-15 13:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-15 14:01 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-16 2:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-05-15 14:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-05-16 14:02 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 14:16 ` Ben de Groot
2013-05-15 15:00 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-05-16 0:27 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:28 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 6:58 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 15:03 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 15:10 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 16:59 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 17:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 18:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-15 19:02 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 19:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-05-15 20:56 ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-05-15 21:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-15 23:56 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-16 0:50 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-15 17:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-16 5:20 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-15 18:18 ` waltdnes
2013-05-15 22:38 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-15 21:07 ` waltdnes
2013-05-16 1:20 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-16 1:31 ` Matthew Thode
2013-05-17 0:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-05-18 3:45 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-18 9:41 ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-05-18 17:02 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-18 17:38 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-18 17:47 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-18 19:23 ` Carlos Silva
2013-05-19 12:59 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-19 13:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-05-19 14:04 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 14:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-05-19 18:02 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-19 18:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 3:03 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-21 3:34 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-21 13:17 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-22 21:39 ` Re: " Daniel Campbell
2013-05-22 22:39 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-05-23 6:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-23 6:41 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-23 8:02 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-05-23 9:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 19:19 ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-05-21 4:45 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 13:57 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 14:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-21 14:35 ` Michael Mol
2013-05-21 21:37 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 22:52 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 3:06 ` Duncan
2013-05-22 8:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-22 15:19 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-22 15:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-05-23 5:30 ` Duncan
2013-05-23 6:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-05-23 7:12 ` Duncan
2013-05-21 7:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-05-21 7:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 15:21 ` Luca Barbato
2013-05-22 18:32 ` Michał Górny
2013-05-22 18:42 ` Zac Medico
2013-05-22 19:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-05-22 23:38 ` Walter Dnes
2013-05-24 6:32 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-24 6:48 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-05-21 10:09 ` Albert Hopkins
2013-05-21 10:22 ` Rich Freeman
2013-05-24 6:26 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-05-19 3:36 ` William Hubbs
2013-05-21 12:25 ` [gentoo-dev] TLDNR; " Steven J. Long
2013-05-16 2:30 ` Re: [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Campbell
2013-06-07 11:52 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:04 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 12:24 ` Olav Vitters
2013-06-07 12:34 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-07 14:57 ` Olav Vitters
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