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From: "vivo75@gmail.com" <vivo75@gmail.com>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>,
	"gentoo development" <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>,
	robbat2@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:09:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51797F68.1050807@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130424191737.GA2557@linux1>

On 04/24/13 21:17, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:00:17PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:16:06 -0500
>> William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts
>>> will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package that
>>> includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
>> Aside all the other, please don't name it like this :). It's just feels
>> wrong to start new and supposedly beneficial project and name it 'old'
>> like something you just thrown away off the main tree.
> The name is also per robbat2's request. I asked him about other names,
> but he specifically wanted oldnet in the name.
>
> A little bit of historical background may be in order here.
>
> In a nutshell, it is called old because Roy wanted to deprecate the
> whole thing eventually and switch us over to the newnet scripts that
> OpenRC has.
> name.
>
> We thought about killing off newnet entirely for a while in OpenRC, but
> I have since found that people do use it. It is more similar to what
> happens on the *bsd side, and it works well for simple setups.
s/it works well for simple setups/it work wonderfully for very complex
setups/

It can mimic very closely the 'ip' command, making it easy to test on
commandline and just copy and paste in conf.d/net.
At the same time it benefit from a lot of howtos and tutorials written
for sys-apps/iproute2

"old"net is the best network manager out there including all major distro.

>
> Also, I think it is more like what some other distros do for their
> network interfaces.
>
> The primary disadvantages of newnet are that services can't depend on a
> single network interface, and it is not possible to stop/start a single
> interface.
>
> William
>



  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-25 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-24 17:23   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54       ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16         ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30           ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  8:41               ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26  8:58                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20                   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24                     ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 23:17             ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25  0:05                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25  1:10                 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  1:39                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25  2:12                     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27                 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18           ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12           ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53               ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  3:13       ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25  3:32         ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 19:09     ` vivo75 [this message]
2013-04-25 23:07       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26  8:44     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13     ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17       ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 23:12           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15           ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26  8:37           ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato

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