From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED8B1381F3 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DA18E0B72; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward15.mail.yandex.net (forward15.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.119]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26970E0B60 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (smtp13.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.68]) by forward15.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id F18209E1AC1 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:50:15 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D7147E407C9 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:50:15 +0400 (MSK) Received: from host-109-171-17-91.bbcustomer.zsttk.net (host-109-171-17-91.bbcustomer.zsttk.net [109.171.17.91]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id rRSKSHAMxO-oFFulgr5; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:50:15 +0400 Message-ID: <51795ECC.4030603@mva.name> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:50:20 +0700 From: "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" Organization: Alpha LLC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130407 Firefox/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2EJMTQVIWAOFPCNMWQWRG" X-Archives-Salt: 2c0a3767-068c-4753-ae0f-f73ab41cab7d X-Archives-Hash: 8d46e5e79d70288fd9b52830d98eb89f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2EJMTQVIWAOFPCNMWQWRG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, all! Just one question: why do you all talking about IUSE=3D+oldnet, but not REQUIRED_USE=3D"^^ ( net oldnet )" for example? 24.04.2013 23:16, William Hubbs =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > All, >=20 > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out into > their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be developed > independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC 0.12, which I hope= > to release soon. >=20 > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* scripts= > will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate package tha= t > includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. >=20 > My plan is to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released > telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet to > get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe I'll > change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts installed > and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned off. >=20 > I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live > systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their news > items and ewarns. >=20 > On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime > dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since OpenRC > doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this would be > abusing dependencies. >=20 > Does anyone have any thoughts? >=20 > William >=20 ------enig2EJMTQVIWAOFPCNMWQWRG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJReV7MAAoJECZQPTSbOzNLRUQQAI41fIPMgTQJIuaOhXQ202X6 oe0GoU5KdlzWFKL50N6ZMBD7P0wtT25luVNUCMoIINjRcoZbgpgNoq+FoHpFTY+t 3E50m6unZyRg/aZWgfX7zWVhnUOBwvi+U6Ww7ADYnbXH1vnuxl04A1z/RaBBmv1F 9TIYJ9bvTQwgrfMfU/Rse9ok3U2PZCTDeQqaJFhS9ECrqYzTSXd5V3aZ8y+PxTOJ KWIWprvuGSbQm1sm9GHRjYw0waZIDKSJHKvOfAso8g3Hs9fTpdJW5Dm8wSmGQ9RH 2CMvMROZj1+ZM8sfAAftvKu6LmumqOi+A8/zeCTdntgzBZtaTrThgygMtoUVqSko PafAEuxpLzEcWf2+Nwru9l1zOORhJacm2GdRh4RK3ofPBM6F7lNM/xSE1sNtcnL8 mlK7c8IFr/PxyCRzrbKvldLL4/EoKRakJHMdXIqB8gztwJMhPlC/albi1HvOHKqH nvh2yUDiAMxCbslu8/89XDIBHDVkyhCYd08L/MDHQtOXXgY1TkRQ0vYyRV9+M0NI AjrAklbnYIBBQlTCOWArYCVOItAaZn9ZV3USoL35eriKMF07uo8HeJEVzrbCEePg tpaCJ5R1TEf+3U4NLP+JyHL/u5ZtQc9b7xO8zDQQLjrop2/6f8A+bbfS4zJnnoMt J4DVxx9qJLA+rtZyBQGk =g2LP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2EJMTQVIWAOFPCNMWQWRG--