From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719891381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EC6DE0A7C; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 697EBE09F2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.107.2] (40.sub-75-243-39.myvzw.com [75.243.39.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 331BC33DF06 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51786B9C.9070607@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:32:44 -0400 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130406 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> <51780F2D.7060007@gentoo.org> <20130424172323.GB2323@linux1> <201304241334.37807.vapier@gentoo.org> <20130424175407.GA2404@linux1> <20130424223446.GA12947@waltdnes.org> <20130424231701.GA3133@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20130424231701.GA3133@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cf7f8232-a980-478c-b46e-ceadfba9e6a1 X-Archives-Hash: 3567335e30ac7b793984a273cfabd934 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/24/2013 07:17 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 06:34:46PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 02:16:51PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote >> >>> Considering our default configuration ships sshd (an argument we don't >>> need to rehash here), it seems a bit silly to not ship networking >>> support by default. I'd rather not do it as part of the system set, >>> though that would be consistent with what we're doing with ssh, and it >>> is still override-able. >> To handle the various possible cases, maybe we need a "virtual/net" as >> part of the system set, which can be satisfied by either oldnet or >> newnet or whatever. The install ISO will have a basic working network >> stack (IPV4+IPV6). After the initial install, the admin can do >> whatever. Maybe even invoke package.provided. > > This would actually be cleaner than a bogus dependency in OpenRC. > I would probably call it virtual/network-manager though. > You can't call it virtual/network-manager, that calls to mind, you know, net-misc/networkmanager. That's just too confusing imho. I wouldn't object to virtual/net, or pretty much anything else that isn't confusing. The net scripts are not a network manager, networkmanager, wicd, even wpa_supplicant would be things I would consider to be network managers. - -Zero > Are there any issues with putting together a virtual like this and > adding it to @system? > > Thanks, > > William > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJReGucAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKSZIP/23ZA8sFNnVSUsOQcZf/nBMh ZJPH1eIOfalja64dJCXXlDb/0C0H5vkFBuuGJ+0ifVuulny6yDs0BV75w9x7Tecg FsP2y2tSQQwCwqdV6GP7bab07BbTZ1DhnEpLajVYZexr9BAk8bsQki6vdkZ7n39b 7iRhtiRz2mKsIK4jq+C6GG1C+QMdg1gycpij60//fJfFatgQ4CWNssMOA2j2lbr4 gLjx9NovKJg+cenPHF8dyIuutQIcl7ehKBtYraqFYfx2QbNerkBHoeCupQ6tiuIa bB2DXR9Ujb0OOB50KxrwFwdW61oJ7Z7bZbPCTQJp2F78eGp4hFcUUbcN6gB75zQE l4ILJALegn8/mwVlP6veXZZoqOPi8ccvo0ZSQDHnQo3jyQM4kgkHnv3T8JavkjUk njFEOUatGsss1Fal7r7Wk39ip9OamolEqdiHJZTqa96OoOzv1lFRp5fU9y6Vi96A nAZ70JEpX2C3UMZ1LIImWE0LArzr+1F4qWH0fpakikRKBr2NSSTUyI7BQzc5YKwg +cTuaPSGmRUIeZXofhJ6Ut5LtwlAqRcf3boCAOQvj8oqWbZy2Kkd+MuUoaZcl5VM u5uXx4LpZfC+eeCalCfdK4DDUwhLk/mvyf4r9ZqlL0QAAg+tmKEvEHTn7Zz++Q2o WAb5pvOnn5BYM+HdqPpr =5kV9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----