Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

[Patrick McLean <chutzpah@gentoo.org>]

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On 24/04/13 11:46 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:54:07 William Hubbs wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 01:34:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 24 April 2013 13:23:23 William Hubbs wrote:
>>>> The issue is that OpenRC does not have any kind of dependency on gentoo-oldnet at all. There will be a separate loopback script in OpenRC
>>>> so it is possible to run OpenRC on a system without the oldnet or newnet scripts. In fact, this is a completely valid configuration.
>>> 
>>> even then, a default Gentoo system should have networking support available by default.  our manuals assume this, and people shouldn't have
>>> to install a stage3 and then do `emerge gentoo-oldnet` just to have that happen.  so keeping a dependency in openrc (perhaps initially hard, 
>>> or behind IUSE=+oldnet) makes sense.
>> 

+1
We should definitely install networking by default, and not make people
install it as a separate emerge. If oldnet is being split into a different
package, perhaps newnet should be split out as well.

Maybe we could have a virtual/networking that defaults to oldnet and exists
as a hard dep of openrc.

>> if we keep a dependency for a while, even behind something like IUSE="+oldnet", when we drop it, people will still be hit if they do emerge
>> --depclean before they emerge gentoo-oldnet.
> 
> i don't think we should drop it.  openrc is logically the best place imo.

+1
oldnet is and should remain the default networking implementation on Gentoo.
Newnet simply drops way too much functionality to become the default.
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