From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0941381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21292E08DD; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DC0BE08A6 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.122] (bas1-ottawa09-2925289052.dsl.bell.ca [174.92.94.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA29B33D8CC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51780F2D.7060007@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:58:21 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC References: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ffcddd33-b86b-41f5-b094-4716e27fce83 X-Archives-Hash: b2b47f721425bb2c9f6086d94ad84e85 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out > into their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be > developed independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC > 0.12, which I hope to release soon. > > This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.* > scripts will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate > package that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet. > > My plan is to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released > telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet > to get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe > I'll change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts > installed and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned > off. > > I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live > systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their > news items and ewarns. > > On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime > dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since > OpenRC doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this > would be abusing dependencies. > > Does anyone have any thoughts? > > William > Current users should be able to do a -uDN and still have their existing systems work as-is. Whether you do this via a static dependency or one controlled by a use flag (and be sure use flag defaults would have oldnet installed by default) is up to you. It's completely understandable that openrc -the project- doesn't contain oldnet, but the end result on gentoo still should, by default, imo. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlF4Dy0ACgkQ2ugaI38ACPAQGwD+OEg6BV5rBEGylDr5R1cfMR80 oyE0Mwo4HWF/IEoTWk4A/jSvwkvz6mtx8Zuja/gzZogXVYHCVbVhARUXR195BGx2 =2754 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----