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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:58:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51780F2D.7060007@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130424161606.GA1607@linux1>

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On 24/04/13 12:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> it has been suggested that gentoo's oldnet scripts be split out
> into their own package separate from OpenRC so that they can be
> developed independently. I am looking at doing this for OpenRC
> 0.12, which I hope to release soon.
> 
> This means when you emerge or upgrade to openrc-0.12, the net.*
> scripts will no longer be included. I am going to call the separate
> package that includes these scripts gentoo-oldnet.
> 
> My plan is  to write a newsitem when OpenRC 0.12 is released 
> telling users this and that they will have to emerge gentoo-oldnet
> to get the gentoo networking scripts or turn on the newnet (maybe
> I'll change this to net) use flag to get OpenRC's network scripts
> installed and put ewarns in the ebuild if this use flag is turned
> off.
> 
> I feel that a newsitem and ewarns in the OpenRC ebuild cover live 
> systems well. In a nutshell, users should pay attention to their
> news items and ewarns.
> 
> On the other hand, some are suggesting that I should add a runtime 
> dependency to OpenRC so that it pulls in gentoo-oldnet. Since
> OpenRC doesn't need gentoo-oldnet in order to run, I feel like this
> would be abusing dependencies.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts?
> 
> William
> 


Current users should be able to do a -uDN and still have their
existing systems work as-is.  Whether you do this via a static
dependency or one controlled by a use flag (and be sure use flag
defaults would have oldnet installed by default) is up to you.

It's completely understandable that openrc -the project- doesn't
contain oldnet, but the end result on gentoo still should, by default,
imo.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-24 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-24 16:16 [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC William Hubbs
2013-04-24 16:45 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 17:01   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:30     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 21:00     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-04-24 16:58 ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2013-04-24 17:23   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 17:34     ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 17:54       ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 18:16         ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-24 18:30           ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 21:01             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-04-26  8:41               ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26  8:58                 ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-26 11:20                   ` Michael Mol
2013-04-26 16:24                     ` »Q«
2013-04-24 22:34           ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2013-04-24 23:17             ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 23:32               ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-04-25  0:05                 ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25  1:10                 ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  1:39                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-25  2:12                     ` Zac Medico
2013-04-25 18:10               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-25 18:27                 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2013-04-25 18:54                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 19:08                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 18:46         ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-24 22:18           ` Patrick McLean
2013-04-26 17:27         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-04-26 18:12           ` Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 18:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-04-26 18:53               ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25  3:13       ` Alec Warner
2013-04-25  3:32         ` William Hubbs
2013-04-24 19:00 ` Michał Górny
2013-04-24 19:17   ` William Hubbs
2013-04-25 19:09     ` vivo75
2013-04-25 23:07       ` Mike Frysinger
2013-04-26  8:44     ` Tobias Klausmann
2013-04-25 16:50 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2013-04-25 16:58   ` Rich Freeman
2013-04-25 17:13     ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:17       ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:18         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 17:23           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 17:23       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-04-25 22:15       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-04-25 22:51         ` Carlos Silva
2013-04-25 23:12           ` Peter Stuge
2013-04-25 23:15           ` Ambroz Bizjak
2013-04-26  8:37           ` Duncan
2013-04-25 23:49 ` [gentoo-dev] OldNet out of OpenRC: as the requester Robin H. Johnson
2013-04-26 10:13   ` Alexander Berntsen
2013-04-26 14:14 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC Luca Barbato

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