From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F89F138A75 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDDEC21C002; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9903E0281 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.107.2] (50.sub-75-192-42.myvzw.com [75.192.42.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B8D433D8A9 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <511F226B.9070001@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:08:43 -0500 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130128 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1 References: <5117560B.3090709@gentoo.org> <5117C8B4.50802@gentoo.org> <511B903A.8000301@gentoo.org> <511D64CC.9030505@gentoo.org> <511D678D.5070006@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <511D678D.5070006@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f2517c74-6728-40f5-ad2a-1649e1e5f6a6 X-Archives-Hash: 6e36e914c1ee4486efad031f03a666f1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/2013 05:39 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 15/02/13 00:27, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: >> Remove firmware from users systems with no upgrade path and then ask >> users to file a bug? That's pretty awesome, how can those people file a > > You have very broken definition of removing/breaking users systems. > Masking is not breaking. The message was very careful. Don't over > dramatize this. What happens why a user runs --depclean and has a masked package installed? Oh that's right, it uninstalls. My systems do that automatically, but you are welcome to assume "stupid user didn't read messages" if that is easier. > >>> About the others, losing them is not too dramatic. >> This was worked out between ssuominen and myself on irc nearly a week >> ago. I believe we were both happy when we were done. Sorry for not >> updating the list but the issue hasn't been dire for a while. > > If you mean working out it by you doing unnecessary yelling on public > IRC channel and me ignoring it, then sure. ;-) I'm sorry you feel that way. My intent was to work with you to solve the problem in the fastest way possible to avoid users cleaning firmware from their only network card. It was not my intent to demean you in any way. Multiple lines in that mask were an issue, not only that but you said you would mask firmware that was in linux-firmware and/or didn't install properly in /lib/firmware then proceeded to mask firmware that didn't fit either category. If you would like to continue pretending you didn't make a mistake that is fine, but please don't pretend I was unreasonably attacking you as I was not unreasonable nor attacking you. - -ZC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRHyJrAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKCA8P/1w0t8gLROkFg8+ioPrTHX3g y9sKwKa5Sw0zxnTPYAZ75hoI6xP3H6WzhTPfMRpaOHR24PRMgmRTumelHShhf76z S4XxP8HUjnysjuPS70lBTU/cFi93sut+C/s4//k6wni3SzS7xq/BlkD4rwAYYBaI SSOxEeys5M5ghkPG0Wrj1x7m9j/ud0h6CTCbRBaxK7W1uMdRqXzaZmyYPcJ3lsZ3 Q+gHWOJZdAymput0CZ61CjpcAdmU+hsQk5A3L1dXxKCuxaEt/GgiNkm82UKjZyg2 o2hactvPQFH9VUyFGm96tG+L3E1o05uvXQEf0MUFDxcH7iG6HFdiyCC5pcsACo0z Z+FB+nb9y/AE6AWxfx5jiuizo+KWFkOH/RhyE91MbqEnRRSWoyBExQQu3tqfrfAr RCgKbKOZXLCEKeIoFAzsprNcwcullnDr4g3a0Fdjouz9b4nNEoojJjX3IU086bkp 3nwNFbguWBwIWB+YJ6KSZ42Kw08FZYQRIccV/khXmfFYyWgXj1twOE3CqDKWDr4N gvZauSfsoHgQkXIn02+eiDnZW60QYONfKTnDmJ68BdXpoFAi0/h0sQg7OS5+E2KN d+5/2vHINR/pphVbVK2Ku44c7h3J7Qj1xMiNa8CxL9AtCkqMKhliykOSpD6bsyUJ IlTiv2rnuYCNuKd56nKt =RM+e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----