From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1744C1389C7 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 984ED21C013; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BB8121C005 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (215.107.2.81.in-addr.arpa [81.2.107.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 612C433E49F for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <511A2486.6050703@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:16:22 +0100 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130207 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild) References: <20130207055244.9167.qmail@stuge.se> <1843047.zKdLAzEhcU@lebrodyl> <20130208184652.5fd15c00@gentoo.org> <5116593F.5000209@gentoo.org> <20130210230114.07ab4467@gentoo.org> <5118D530.10201@gentoo.org> <20130211104945.62f8d487@gentoo.org> <51195CEB.7000505@gentoo.org> <20130211213334.4398.qmail@stuge.se> <51197C65.10808@gentoo.org> <20130211233432.14047.qmail@stuge.se> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2a3e59c4-31dc-4e7b-a3ae-345c0207b2dd X-Archives-Hash: 9f107497e073ce620f9425298b223aad On 12/02/13 08:21, Ian Whyman wrote: > Guys, > > Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This > instance clearly not going to resole itself. It is a little bikeshed. Originally the virtual was ordered in a way, then ordered in another and now we are discussing which one is better for the user after we turned it around again. There isn't ANYTHING that is impacting users beside those that they might get the next versions of gst-libav just end up with a runtime error if they use ffmpeg (if the upstream authors follow up with their plan) or those users wanting to use mencoder might get some compile errors if I forgot to update the compatibility patch after somebody bumped w/out testing. It really boils down to decide to be extra careful with mplayer and xbmc or being extra careful with gst-libav and maybe vlc. Sadly this whole discussion turned to discussing who is right or wrong, who is the fork or not and who's an evil bastard oppressing the poor Austrian genius or not. I'm ok discussing technical merits and spend time fixing issues, not so much discussing stuff I'd rather not discuss such as if I'm an evil bastard for not working with somebody that joked about my death. lu