From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BF113897B for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25CAF21C195; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25DCF21C191 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-71-245-176-92.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.245.176.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16B6A33E4F3 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <511806A1.8020003@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:44:17 -0500 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130128 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1) References: <5117560B.3090709@gentoo.org> <20130210174634.77631769@sf> <1360508715.26312.8.camel@belkin4> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c00e5017-397d-4df8-abde-634b3c7cc786 X-Archives-Hash: eccee57aeee3140c22e4b7e0276cbb76 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/2013 11:54 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get >>> proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/ >> >> +1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I >> didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older kernel >> sources came with the firmware?). > > This is another problem, namely dependency level problem. > I don't see how having kernel sources ebuilds providing /lib/firmware > would fix any of the listed issues without causing other "side > effects". > For starters, if kernel sources provide /lib/firmware, how do you deal > with file collisions? The number of collisions has been reduced drastically in the last ~year, I don't believe there are actually any left now. I think the kernel has almost entirely stopped shipping firmware. It may be time to make linux-firmware an RDEPEND of *-sources - -Zero -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRGAahAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKz2cP/2BbuvVsYgMUHGwuD8Xs5/Iw 70Q1QyXY4SIQGh5p/YZ0XX6Z1uzGGUAwAm2tWbsFUT6VFZWyb0p/Wl5Rf3Vtn9eO 4DXx4JoKPI12bFEbJuhCMe67e01A3h88j/lp0fE372MTDUcutl3FF+i34zz/DckU NGEVw9+IxPxxuohTT+llzPE+3gd1j1LOSL+msv5nFwcKn940iOujLpDvpiscGD68 HBb5lcyxuKcV5XBlG3oRZ8+rP1A0vW2qyMm4/IXHMEehro1N3JxMpYQq+NcUrGT8 tlAHYW4C6+Z7b8zr9kEUbuDVI1dx+AM/MXbd8bdfpSWjnrk9NCnV5Y9mTBaNJB61 kn+CEQIaGi3aNBOzVBfo02ZGONZh7c178uIa7+Lh0deyENdlptU/UdD8wNf1PCK4 MCxsLzuJ6zb0XzaxJaY5snoZ+r8pHPrMUZFv8F0ls3y4maiGQMc48MOy4mJ90hYd 52HF3tjM2H0q7KNasKgP/u4DKylRiAWEvCS7uLF/6mUA74Ph9OVac+BJeUQSVsKh 4606UogOgk03IlBmNiyj41t3auX/MfqGYa3kBdftmFHURMOx1GPL5wqibRdzQ1T6 G8ojPdKxARHowkC9oAYljO6kUoQFD/mBN53KhvoCcu83n1rfvJ2hNBlkais8jEw6 PT7FeADuNUixau15F5jm =rqzh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----