From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E9C1387C2 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5D621C03F; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spot.xmw.de (spot.xmw.de [176.9.87.236]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDD021C02C for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:6f8:1cd1:0:21d:72ff:fe88:9ac1] (x.l.xmw.de [IPv6:2001:6f8:1cd1:0:21d:72ff:fe88:9ac1]) by spot.xmw.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5365114410AFF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 11:53:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <510B9EAF.2000407@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:53:35 +0100 From: Michael Weber User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130114 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] "frozen" overlay Re: Please stop useless removals References: <510B8298.7090905@gentoo.org> <510B8B1C.1050700@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <510B8B1C.1050700@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 82b805e0-3487-4ae5-8d6f-e4a04c6025b3 X-Archives-Hash: 6ce26ef16a2e8702f4d032abe67ae0a7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 02/01/2013 10:35 AM, Dennis Lan (dlan) wrote:> HI Michael: > I can think of it's almost kind of a staging area, some package > may be partial broken(or partial functional), but still useful for > user. Please see [1] for the proposal of betagarden overlay, which might grab attention by posting a project page, @sping *plz* > Generally speaking, It should be a good idea! The end users will > benefit a lot. thanks. On 02/01/2013 10:30 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: > Well, we can move such software to sunrise, can't we? But > proposition of splitted mirrors makes sense, cause quite often dead > upstream means dead links to original tarballs too. Maybe betagarden/sunrise would benefit from mirror-coverage, hosting situation is a recurring question on #-sunrise. Votes? Sunrise commit access is limited to sunrise devs. And I see the _rise_ in context of software and devs. I don't say sundown, cause for mentioned arguments, I just wanna have functioning/maybe superseeded software around, regardless of it's commit-frequency, author involvement or century of creation. Again: We need to proceed as a contemporary distribution ("Does not build with latest ~** gcc/" argument), but we can preserve our trail for those who like. The line between removed packages and obsoleted slots has to be drawn. I'm in a tension between overlay scatter and providing an automated time capsule (that certainly will mess up any of the aforementioned repos). [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_384ad55a02bf02154397f29d10a0f68e.xml - -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/ mailto: Michael Weber -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlELnq4ACgkQknrdDGLu8JAY3gD/TOifKZZNqVb6VJkfp/VLGaGT MZzWVOYVsPPAQi0B+voA/3D8afTh5TjxeWJvAKIZwIG6O/rwVrVBAI4YHgC4T59x =bnDb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----