[gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Pacho Ramos]

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With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it
has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218

that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as
I don't have splash on my systems for years).

Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we
have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are
moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo)

Thanks for your help

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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Alex Legler]

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On 27.01.2013 23:06, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it
> has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218
> 
> that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as
> I don't have splash on my systems for years).
> 
> Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we
> have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are
> moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo)

We have it, it works (or at least worked). Someone would need to
implement it in genkernel initrds though as at the moment only dracut
can handle it.

In terms of package maintenance, I took the package from aidecoe when he
dropped it to avoid it getting removed. People seem to have found issues
in there now and it could use a bump. As I cannot boot my systems using
dracut initrds right now, feel free to take the package (and the openrc
plugin for it) and fix/bump/do whatever with it.

> 
> Thanks for your help
> 


-- 
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure


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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Pacho Ramos]

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El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 00:25 +0100, Alex Legler escribió:
> On 27.01.2013 23:06, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it
> > has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time:
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218
> > 
> > that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as
> > I don't have splash on my systems for years).
> > 
> > Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we
> > have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are
> > moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo)
> 
> We have it, it works (or at least worked). Someone would need to
> implement it in genkernel initrds though as at the moment only dracut
> can handle it.
> 
> In terms of package maintenance, I took the package from aidecoe when he
> dropped it to avoid it getting removed. People seem to have found issues
> in there now and it could use a bump. As I cannot boot my systems using
> dracut initrds right now, feel free to take the package (and the openrc
> plugin for it) and fix/bump/do whatever with it.
> 

Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
Gentoo :/)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Fabio Erculiani]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 00:25 +0100, Alex Legler escribió:
>
> Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
> Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
> not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
> Gentoo :/)
>

Officially, we have always used fbsplash + splashutils.
I have no experience with dracut/plymouth though.

-- 
Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Alexey Shvetsov]

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Hi all!

Well, I think best solution for fbcondecor patch is to go mainline. May be 
after that there will be some interest fro maintaining splashutils from non-
gentoo people.

В письме от 27 января 2013 23:06:35 пользователь Pacho Ramos написал:
> With spock retirement, splashutils became orphan. The problem is that it
> has a lot of unresolved bugs for a long time:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=splashutils&list_id=1521218
> 
> that would need someone with more knowledge about it to maintain it (as
> I don't have splash on my systems for years).
> 
> Also looks like splashutils is no more developed, but I don't know if we
> have a proper replacement for it in gentoo (most distributions are
> moving to plymouth, but I haven't tried if it works ok on Gentoo)
> 
> Thanks for your help
-- 
Best Regards,
Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov
Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute, 
Gatchina, Russia
Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics
Gentoo Team Ru
Gentoo Linux Dev
mailto:alexxyum@gmail.com
mailto:alexxy@gentoo.org
mailto:alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru

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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Sergey Popov]

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28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет:
> Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
> Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
> not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
> Gentoo :/)

We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478).

-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo Linux Developer
Desktop-effects project lead


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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió:
> 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет:
> > Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
> > Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
> > not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
> > Gentoo :/)
> 
> We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478).
> 

Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As
both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to
focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions
and is actively developed)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Dustin C. Hatch]

On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió:
>> 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет:
>>> Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
>>> Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
>>> not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
>>> Gentoo :/)
>>
>> We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478).
>>
>
> Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As
> both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to
> focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions
> and is actively developed)
>
As a user, I can say that one advantage of splashutils over plymouth is 
that I could never get the latter to work, whereas the former has worked 
on every machine I've tried to use it on (server, desktop, and virtual 
machine).

-- 
♫Dustin

Re: [gentoo-dev] splashutils needs a maintainer

[Albert Hopkins]

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Dustin C. Hatch wrote:
> On 2/2/2013 13:19, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 15:55 +0400, Sergey Popov escribió:
> >> 28.01.2013 23:26, Pacho Ramos пишет:
> >>> Then, looks like no alternative is in good shape on Gentoo. What is
> >>> Sabayon using? They look to have plymouth ebuilds in their overlay (but
> >>> not in "for-gentoo" one, then, it probably has some incompatibility
> >>> Gentoo :/)
> >>
> >> We have plymouth ebuilds in tree, but they are outdated(see
> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=430478).
> >>
> >
> > Could anyone summarize the advantages of splashutils over plymouth? As
> > both look to be needed of some love in Gentoo, maybe would be better to
> > focus on later one (that is the preferred option in most distributions
> > and is actively developed)
> >
> As a user, I can say that one advantage of splashutils over plymouth is 
> that I could never get the latter to work, whereas the former has worked 
> on every machine I've tried to use it on (server, desktop, and virtual 
> machine).

IIRC plymouth requires KMS so if your driver doesn't have KMS support
then it doesn't have plymouth support.