From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3621384E6 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7258E21C0EC; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1941021C0E8 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id n10so1157417lbo.22 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:37:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1j+VvkZsmO7NPVM/0BA23PhdLNHsnPV1JIvpAq8Ucc4=; b=0bPCYVjfpu3R0PpqUijHMjkHQQT2fhDuXsjFZPNhKPi2b1rSdS7ZS79BX+ACy1Ku0s f3wpnmgadEik6moberT4cuC+CAhzG2WuF5a1Wi1pUuvOVXs8awUzdYIHg+jsvwVmlNS8 gp5d1einkyRejACXH/10J5CAMnS31L73bVpMaSsJvrXA56epnt4gl9wO8beoz2suNJ3X tjlPi9KctRCewrAROIqMfh7x/+PlnwjbCkPL3dyNzpeS4ZqOY09yB4+ML54l82zoofFA IJgIIfKNjSE7/GlG7ieF+CptyxolTz1TVhPdLuuj3PwMTv6Yl68J8T5r5VkRVrhEEj9p TBlw== X-Received: by 10.152.114.66 with SMTP id je2mr1719469lab.40.1358354239373; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.4.18] (122.81.186.89.dsl.static.ip.kpnqwest.it. [89.186.81.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n2sm2359539lbc.5.2013.01.16.08.37.17 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:37:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F6D735.4000207@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:37:09 +0100 From: "vivo75@gmail.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130112 Thunderbird/17.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org CC: Mike Gilbert Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names References: <20130109221310.GA1749@linux1> <50F51E69.8020507@gentoo.org> <50F560A3.9040503@gentoo.org> <20130115185856.GA22785@kroah.com> <20130116151914.GA90907@kaini.schwarzvogel.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 67e3e0f1-bca4-4354-8336-d4b23c64e0db X-Archives-Hash: cdfb7ce22f9fd82f66d417db18e5b120 Il 16/01/2013 17:25, Mike Gilbert ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote: >>> So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and >>> you have more than one network device in your system, should seriously >>> reconsider how they are naming their devices, as it will not work if you >>> only rely on the kernel. >>> >>> You might have gotten "lucky" for the past 5 years, but you never know >>> what could happen if you reboot today. Seriously, I've seen it happen >>> all the time. >> It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine >> with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I >> _know_ that there will be eth0 and only that. >> >> OTOH, maybe it's a good idea to make admins do "ip link sh" and >> "ip addr sh" every time they examine a new computer -- it goes a >> long way to root out wrong assumptions in that field. >> >> Regards, >> Tobias >> >> PS: Do not use ifconfig. Ever. Except if there's no iproute. And >> then you should only use ifconfig to enable downloading of >> iproute :) >> > I would actually like to see iproute2 added to the system set. > additionally (or indipendently) I would like to see it in bin instead of sbin