From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11811381F3 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 443B621C0BE; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0203521C0B4 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.204] (unknown [65.213.236.244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3YPhxR2z3sz1hfK for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:47:23 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1355701643; bh=k7e8rQm49QOF1pjcGfXrVMLIVaEMYe2dH0unmb224vM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=tzuZumr1Pw6c5RjWZ2DR8Op583xjSV1WE+CWMm/LgB2+pl/MRz0pYnwoT/E71yvM7 iK1LOrSV1Wi858l2edSDb8lOKv36/4nmP9BzCObIoeSuQlbdmZZ29303Foex93Osar r7dBseZOMyWuTCB87hZvI/bhTRHsAQfE+HX1rrrA= Message-ID: <50CE5D8B.7000904@orlitzky.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:47:23 -0500 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.10) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/10.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...) References: <50CDFD7F.7040207@orlitzky.com> <201212161954.00706.dilfridge@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201212161954.00706.dilfridge@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9a370bc6-44c2-426e-83fd-156570a5bd26 X-Archives-Hash: ec4e0a345388df21037e8c212c477759 On 12/16/12 13:53, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> 1. Even MediaWiki (wiki.gentoo.org) looks better than www.gentoo.org. >> That's impressive-bad. >> >> People still think of Gentoo as a ricer distro that's broken all >> the time, when in reality, it's one of the most stable. No one >> would suspect that anything has changed, though, since the >> homepage hasn't since before I could drink beer. >> >> It makes the entire distro look unmaintained. > > Yeah. Stable. Hehe... > > The problem with the entire webpage is that is coded in an extremely obscure > way. It is probably easier to 100% replace it from scratch than to modify and > improve it. Yes, I've tried to analyze once how e.g. the table of blog posts > or the GLSA announcements on the main page come together. > > My personal suggestion would be to code an internal replacement and > transparently port more and more pages to it (as a change mostly invisible > from outside, with two content management systems running concurrently for a > transition period). Once the transition is complete, improvements can be made > in a more sweeping way. > > How to do this, however, and what software to target should probably be > decided by people who know more than me... and in the end it all boils down to > "who has the time and motivation". > This sounds reasonable, but it's a huge project either way. No one is ever going to have the time or motivation, thus the suggestion to do a bug bounty for it.