From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:01:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C693FE.4050405@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121210222717.6424ef66@pomiocik.lan>
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On 10/12/12 04:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the
> *use.stable.mask files are.
>
> They would be at least really useful in Python ebuilds, where we
> have to either:
>
> a) forcedly stabilize a particular Python implementation (like
> pypy),
>
> b) don't support it all,
>
> c) or just keep two package revisions around, one with 'stable'
> Python implementations for stabilization and the other with all
> implementations for testing users.
>
>
> Therefore, having *use.stable.mask would be at least helpful to us.
> But as far as I can see, the spec says we can use it only in
> profile dirs with EAPI 5...
>
> So far, I doubt anyone would want us to migrate our major profiles
> to a newer EAPI, like EAPI 4, not to mention fresh 5. And of
> course, that wouldn't follow our migration path practices.
>
>
> Therefore, I see the following solutions:
>
> 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled
> wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files.
> Require users to migrate to those profiles after getting an EAPI 5
> capable package manager (how?). Possibly mask the relevant flags
> completely in other profiles.
>
>
> 2) change the rules. Make *use.stable.mask files not require EAPI
> 5 profile dirs but apply only to EAPI 5 packages. The outcome is
> similar -- package managers without the feature ignore the ebuilds.
> If they have EAPI 5, they should be able to handle stable unmasking
> as well.
>
> Of course, it all falls apart because of package manager
> strictness. We may want to change that retroactively and quickly
> release updated package managers before the EAPI 5 support is
> spread wider (assuming some transitional period before we will
> start using the files), or defer it into EAPI 6.
>
>
> Either way, I believe that *use.stable.mask would be very helpful
> if we were able to use it. What are your thoughts?
>
I wonder how (2) would really differ from the current situation -- ie,
if there's a use.stable.mask file in a profiles dir, and portage is
too old to support it, doesn't it just get ignored?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-11 2:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-10 21:27 [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86? Michał Górny
2012-12-11 2:01 ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2012-12-11 6:32 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-11 6:35 ` Zac Medico
2012-12-11 21:45 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-12 0:44 ` Zac Medico
2012-12-12 9:32 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-12 10:30 ` Zac Medico
2012-12-13 20:33 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-12-13 20:43 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-13 21:46 ` Zac Medico
2012-12-14 12:38 ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 14:29 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 14:36 ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 14:39 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-14 15:00 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 14:59 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 15:08 ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-14 15:15 ` Michał Górny
2012-12-14 20:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
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