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From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:01:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BE1E3E.9070406@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2jQ8ixNidz8jH4G3L-ZVQ+xXGvLCYDtuc98xf9yTJRUQ+Fyw@mail.gmail.com>

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On 12/04/2012 04:23 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 4 December 2012 08:10, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina <zerochaos@gentoo.org> wrote:
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>> On 12/02/2012 10:21 AM, hasufell wrote:
>>> As I was told in my recruiting process we usually don't just fix up
>>> ebuilds of other devs unless it's trivial, very severe or something.
>>>
>>> The usual process is nothing new: try to contact the maintainer, open a
>>> bug, set a deadline when you will go and fix yourself.
>>>
>>> Only question is now what is a sane soft limit, before you go on and fix
>>> stuff.
>>> >From a discussion in #gentoo-dev we thought 2-4 weeks depending on the
>>> severity of the bug is fine. Ofc this should exclude major changes or
>>> delicate packages from base-system/core/toolchain.
>>>
>>> I tried to document that a bit:
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445402
>>>
>>> any objections? This is nothing new, just a clarification of already
>>> existing policy and a reminder.
>>>
>>>
>> If we are going to document this policy and make it official (which
>> since it's not documented it's not official) then it only makes sense to
>> have an opt-out option.  I personally don't wish to see my users suffer
>> for 2-4 weeks because I'm busy and people are pretending to be polite.
>>
>> I have no issue with this policy, but to do it without an explicit
>> option to opt-out is not acceptable to me.  I would suggest something in
>> the metadata.xml under the maintainer section.  We could have a specific
>> maintainer section : <maintainer><name>help welcome></name></maintainer>
>> or a specific tag to put under our own maintainer section
>> <maintainer><name>Rick Farina</name><demeanor>just fix it</demeanor></name>
> 
> Nobody said the opposite. The devaway message should always be checked
> for people who appear to be inactive and if they
> say "Do not touch my packages" then you shouldn't touch them even if
> he doesn't even touch them himself. Let the retirement team
> kick him out.
> 
> There is always the <description> tag  on metadata.xml you can use eg
> 
> <maintainer>
> <email>foo@gentoo.org</email>
> <name>Me</name>
> <description>Primary maintainer but feel free to fix the bugs<description>
> </maintainer>
> 
<maintainer>
<email>foo@gentoo.org</email>
<name>Me</name>
<description>Proxy maintainer, assign bugs to proxied maintainer, cc on
bugs, but feel free to just fix the bugs<description>
</maintainer>

I feel the description field is already overloaded when there is a proxy
situation, maybe it would be best to define a field for this.  Also
english isn't primary language for everyone in the world so if the
policy could actually be specific on this it would benefit everyone.

- -Zero
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-02 15:21 [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds hasufell
2012-12-02 15:38 ` Rich Freeman
2012-12-02 19:30   ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-04  1:18     ` Ben de Groot
2012-12-04  7:43       ` Ian Whyman
2012-12-04  9:19       ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-04 15:42         ` Alec Warner
2012-12-04 18:54           ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-06 10:53         ` Ben de Groot
2012-12-04  8:10 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-04  9:23   ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-04 16:01     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina [this message]
2012-12-04 17:06       ` Proxy maintainers in metadata.xml (was Re: [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds) Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-12-04 17:28         ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-04 18:35           ` Sergey Popov
2012-12-04 18:48             ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-12-04 18:51           ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-06 11:02             ` Ben de Groot
2012-12-06 13:28               ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-06 15:27                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-06 15:54                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-12-06 16:04                     ` Peter Stuge
2012-12-06 19:07                   ` Markos Chandras
2012-12-08 17:48             ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-12-04 17:01   ` [gentoo-dev] introduce a soft-limit policy for changing other developers ebuilds hasufell
2012-12-04 17:17     ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-04 17:32       ` hasufell
2012-12-04 17:46         ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2012-12-04 18:17           ` hasufell

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